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I do a blend of things. I don't believe in astrology but I'm a Libra and.the women l've loved have been Libras except for that one Ares, so there is something in it.

I go to church and there is one Hindu sage whose teaching has had a major impact his teachings are available in a book, "I am that". It's free online, like all truly spiritual things, no charge.

I meditate now. I wish I had arrived at the ability before 60, but better late than never.

It's all a Mish mash and always trying to figure it all out like every has always done. It all has to go through my filters.

But the bottom line is after years of struggle it is providing me with some relief or solace, which if if it doesn't what's the point? I want to see a sermon, I've heard plenty.

The best barometer of a spiritual practice is the fruit, are you sweet? Can I ask your significant other, or your family? You can ask mine lol, I'm not as scared of what they might say as I used to be.
 
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I did the Myer's/ Briggs thing and it was uncanny how well it fit me. I read all the other types also, just to see if I fit those characteristics any better. I didn't. Other than that, I keep pretty much to my faith and things like that. I am an INFJ.
 
Yo @Mee...

Cooking itself is everyday kitchen witchery.
For those of us with an ED & else food issues: And just thinking of eating invites good mojo & ingredient's spirits.

In emergencies, survival needs met is the most magicky magic of all.

Not even just reframing for the fun of it... that survival = magic is what my several trads teachers stick to.
 
Yo @Mee...

Cooking itself is everyday kitchen witchery.
For those of us with an ED & else food issues: And just thinking of eating invites good mojo & ingredient's spirits.

In emergencies, survival needs met is the most magicky magic of all.

Not even just reframing for the fun of it... that survival = magic is what my several trads teachers stick to.


Yes. I believe this. And the magic can be better or worse. I really do feel this.

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I sat in my garden for and hour just being this morning. It’s the longest I’ve managed and I am sure it’s to do with focusing on this topic.

Thank you for opening the discussion @NatBird
 
I definitely feel connected to my signs, I do tend to relate to their typical qualities a lot. I’m a Sagittarius sun and moon so double whammy, with Scorpio rising which is pretty opposite and I definitely feel torn in two for a multitude of reasons. I’m also an ISFP which is mostly accurate.
 
Here is a quote from my main Astrology text book "Divine Love Astrology"...
..."Astrology provides a map to understanding intuition, for Astrology itself was born of intuition rather than rational thinking".
Shiva Das & Mercy Ananda
 
This is an AMAZING shamanic healing book
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I am also into this approach. Mainly expressed, for me through music, dance, connecting with nature, at times I have used ethnobotanicals, and yes, have experienced "Soul Retrieval" (also have a great book on the subject). It's a great lens, a great tool, for healing. I wanted to do more, do workshops, visit a shaman and learn with her, in my area, but so far, that hasn't happened.

I, very much, experience, my own "Shamanic nature" when I express myself musically. I do "journey" through sound, through musical "channelling" in a sense and through writing, at times. I have a piece of writing, which is actually, describing retrieval of a piece of me, of a very damaged part I me I retrieved from an astral underworld. It's quite a powerful piece. A fellow mental health peer worker used it in a mental health acute setting/clinic for her work.

I maybe, should find it and put it up on this site, some day.

It's cool to find another interested and into this arena @TruthSeeker :) It's something that really has my heart and interest, is sharmanic healing and journeying. I find myself in this "state" when dancing, and, did, for many years as a, reggae and "tribal" dancer, I call it "ecstatic dance" but, I have become a recluse and no longer go out and express this side of me.

One day, I will meet other's and get more into it, but, for now, various art forms and living close to nature, are how I express this side of myself.

I find comfort and answers, as well as more questions in music, art, poetry/writing, and journeying. I also am in my own happy place in water -I love to float....and dancing...they are super freeing. Like in journeying....the water is calming...just floating....so very peaceful. I think things like aromatherapy, and good flavors (some foods-oh, music, and vibrant colors)....and are grounding, and so very valuable. My wildlife photography is another avenue...just loving nature but it is done mostly alone....just me and nature...my preference. My travels often take me out into the wild....I love photographing anything in the wild and I'm alone...but with nature...a great experience.

I have managed to do all of these activities....and stay to myself more often than not. When the urge hits, I dance all over my house...turn up the volume on the Sonos speaker-a great invention, and let her rip to my most favorite music....dancing and singing are a part of shamanic practices....bring you closer to the spirits.....open a channel of sorts.

But art for me, writing, poetry also have this same effect and have been very healing....all can be done from home and alone. Consider finding one other person...locally....just one who shares your passion or perspective healinrg. I found a practicing group at the local UU church. Group members are typically very kind and friendly. Many know trauma...and are there for healing work.

That Shamanic group I attend will be meeting "virtually" until the quarantine/seclusion/stay home period is over....not sure how that will work....but will see if I even have the technology by the next time they meet.

oOn a similar note, I do know that there are T's who practice shamanism within their therapy practice (I guess like Christian counselors use prayer and Bible quotes and lessons) to help clients heal. That idea appealed to me, too.

Maybe you could find a way to access that part of you that finds comfort in the practices you have let go... Journeying can be done at home....and energy is everywhere. It's warm enough here to go barefoot outside, commune with nature, and enjoy the earth. Journeying has no rules like church doctrine....there are even drumming apps if you are used to drumming.....and there are core shamanism groups all over the U.S......just a thought.

I suppose it just boils down to how bad you want to do it...how much you need it....what risks you are willing to take leaving that comfortable reclusive spot..... to move forward in getting in touch with yourself through Shamanic practices with or without others??? Just a thought. What do you think?
 
I find comfort and answers, as well as more questions in music, art, poetry/writing, and journeying. I also am in my own happy place in water -I love to float....and dancing...they are super freeing. Like in journeying....the water is calming...just floating....so very peaceful. I think things like aromatherapy, and good flavors (some foods-oh, music, and vibrant colors)....and are grounding, and so very valuable. My wildlife photography is another avenue...just loving nature but it is done mostly alone....just me and nature...my preference. My travels often take me out into the wild....I love photographing anything in the wild and I'm alone...but with nature...a great experience.

I have managed to do all of these activities....and stay to myself more often than not. When the urge hits, I dance all over my house...turn up the volume on the Sonos speaker-a great invention, and let her rip to my most favorite music....dancing and singing are a part of shamanic practices....bring you closer to the spirits.....open a channel of sorts.

But art for me, writing, poetry also have this same effect and have been very healing....all can be done from home and alone. Consider finding one other person...locally....just one who shares your passion or perspective healinrg. I found a practicing group at the local UU church. Group members are typically very kind and friendly. Many know trauma...and are there for healing work.

That Shamanic group I attend will be meeting "virtually" until the quarantine/seclusion/stay home period is over....not sure how that will work....but will see if I even have the technology by the next time they meet.

oOn a similar note, I do know that there are T's who practice shamanism within their therapy practice (I guess like Christian counselors use prayer and Bible quotes and lessons) to help clients heal. That idea appealed to me, too.

Maybe you could find a way to access that part of you that finds comfort in the practices you have let go... Journeying can be done at home....and energy is everywhere. It's warm enough here to go barefoot outside, commune with nature, and enjoy the earth. Journeying has no rules like church doctrine....there are even drumming apps if you are used to drumming.....and there are core shamanism groups all over the U.S......just a thought.

I suppose it just boils down to how bad you want to do it...how much you need it....what risks you are willing to take leaving that comfortable reclusive spot..... to move forward in getting in touch with yourself through Shamanic practices with or without others??? Just a thought. What do you think?

Yep good flavours and aromatherapy are my go-tos too. I love cooking, especially with home grown produce and healthy-but-delicious stuff.

I put "soul" into the food I prepare for my family.

I like nature photography too, but really need a decent camera. Am into botonical painting and itrs on my to-do list to get a good camera/phone to aid me in that.

Instead of being outward with my shamanic music making and connecting with others on that level, at the moment, I am very into daily yoga practise, at the moment. Due to having ASD as well as CPTSD, I have learnt I need to focus in on less, to not get neurally "fried"

I do my own practices, and teach my children the techniques and "mystery school" approach that resonates with me, but, I don't get around, and getting to know new people? Hmmmmm, veerrrry challenging for me at the moment, but, I do, still want to connect with other's on that level.

We have a weekly drumming circle in my vilage, but, I don't participate in that anymore. It doesn't feel good to me, anymore.

I don't get to get out and travel anywhere, very much, at all. And, yeah, finding people, trustworthy people, with common interests, has and is a challenge for me.

I am soon to start studying for a new career, but, just now, I am finding out it will be online, now, until the prac part (which is a significant part of the degree).

So I enjoy the nature I live in, very much, the animals and plants I connect with. Love it!!! :-) :-) :-) :-)
Yes and poetry is a thing for me, too. Love it!!! Writing it, especially.

This is a "7" year for me, and despite me trying to get out more, I cannot seem to change the nature of it. 7, numerologically, pertains to inward focus, introspection, being mindful and sensitive to what is going on within, and that is definitely what I am experiencing.

My shamanic focus was so intense for so many years. Really, I got a great deal out of it. So, I would like to share what I've learnt and learn more and with other's.

It definitely is an intergrated part of my worldview.

So, I feel confident that other's will come forward for me, at the right time. After all, my true love-life partner, came right to my door, I didnt have to go out and find him, he came to me. So, when the time is right, my shamanic friends will be presented to me, one way or another.

It's such a deep thing, ya know? So I can't just go rushing out there, trying to make it happen. But maybe that's cultural, too, we Aussies are pretty laid back. I notice that's not really like that with other English speaking cultures.
 
Yep good flavours and aromatherapy are my go-tos too. I love cooking, especially with home grown produce and healthy-but-delicious stuff.

I put "soul" into the food I prepare for my family.

I like nature photography too, but really need a decent camera. Am into botonical painting and itrs on my to-do list to get a good camera/phone to aid me in that.

Instead of being outward with my shamanic music making and connecting with others on that level, at the moment, I am very into daily yoga practise, at the moment. Due to having ASD as well as CPTSD, I have learnt I need to focus in on less, to not get neurally "fried"

I do my own practices, and teach my children the techniques and "mystery school" approach that resonates with me, but, I don't get around, and getting to know new people? Hmmmmm, veerrrry challenging for me at the moment, but, I do, still want to connect with other's on that level.

We have a weekly drumming circle in my vilage, but, I don't participate in that anymore. It doesn't feel good to me, anymore.

I don't get to get out and travel anywhere, very much, at all. And, yeah, finding people, trustworthy people, with common interests, has and is a challenge for me.

I am soon to start studying for a new career, but, just now, I am finding out it will be online, now, until the prac part (which is a significant part of the degree).

So I enjoy the nature I live in, very much, the animals and plants I connect with. Love it!!! :):):):)
Yes and poetry is a thing for me, too. Love it!!! Writing it, especially.

This is a "7" year for me, and despite me trying to get out more, I cannot seem to change the nature of it. 7, numerologically, pertains to inward focus, introspection, being mindful and sensitive to what is going on within, and that is definitely what I am experiencing.

My shamanic focus was so intense for so many years. Really, I got a great deal out of it. So, I would like to share what I've learnt and learn more and with other's.

It definitely is an intergrated part of my worldview.

So, I feel confident that other's will come forward for me, at the right time. After all, my true love-life partner, came right to my door, I didnt have to go out and find him, he came to me. So, when the time is right, my shamanic friends will be presented to me, one way or another.

It's such a deep thing, ya know? So I can't just go rushing out there, trying to make it happen. But maybe that's cultural, too, we Aussies are pretty laid back. I notice that's not really like that with other English speaking cultures.

@mumstheword You are so fortunate to have kids...and a loving spouse. But you are right...Gotta do what works for you. Yoga is a healthy practice-but not one I've come to enjoy.....I have a harder time with yoga...Journeying found me, too....right time and place....and needing that inward focus to make sense out of CPTSD .......and bring me calm....during a chaotic time in my life.

I know people who also consider the numbers with life decisions....that hasn't ever called to me (except in photography and art-odd numbers, rule of 3, but that's not numerology........but I do find it interesting. Right now, getting out means driving around looking at wildlife in my car with my camera and staying away from people-we got the virus like everyone else....containment is key I guess.
Good chatting w you!
 
@NatBird thanks for starting this thread. Very comforting to read everyone’s experiences learning about the esoteric and occult. I feel like you all would easily understand my own desire and efforts to incorporate these spiritual arts, and hearing what you all do in your practice invigorates me in my own practice.

A significant part of my CPTSD journey is about unlearning and coming back into trusting my perception/inner knowing,

Me too, big time. One thing I’ve noticed lately is my mind is focused on re-hearing things my abusers would say, but the same words are used positively. An example would be, I need to do something and I hear my abuser’s voice say a simple request and knowing he would try to entrap me I rebel inside, so my “today self” when alone says she’s not going to do anything. But now I can say the same words in my voice, and they are new words, my own inner voice taking over. And I have a connection with the Goddess, she invites me to follow and I trust her. She tells me there’s a reason for all this, and I’ve done it before and I’ll do it again because I’m on her side and I chose to live with her.

I think this can happen even in relationship with ourselves. Welcome home eh:)

Getting lost in a relationship with yourself! This thought sparked a cascade of insight for me. I have a habit of wanting to get swallowed up by a partner and I do that with myself too. Liberating to see it!

The quiet joy the ritual of making a simple hot drink well could bring me was something beautiful and precious.

Love this imagery. I bought a jar of large pink Himalayan salt crystals at Ross and use them in my cooking to sanctify the food. I say a little prayer that I made up which calls in the directions and honors the Universal Mother. Each crystal has meaning. Very comforting.

when I express myself musically. I do "journey" through sound, through musical "channelling" in a sense

I have similar experiences! When I can play on the piano, I let the notes and chords just flow because I can’t read music or even remember songs and sometimes I can get lost in the journey. It is both satisfying and wistful when the music finishes. When it’s happening it feels like another reality.

Cooking itself is everyday kitchen witchery.
For those of us with an ED & else food issues:

Superb insight! Every meal feels like a miracle.

I like astrology, both tropical and sidereal. Tropical is the traditional Western, which is about 20 days behind the actual location of the planets due to precession. Sidereal is followed by Vedic and other Eastern traditions. You can get an app called Sky Guide which shows the planets in real time. I like to hybridize the two traditions—follow the mainstream but notice the specific current details.

In traditional Western astrology I’m a Taurus sun, Gemini moon, Cancer rising.

Did anybody else ever do a reading and find out that their dark placements (Pluto, Lilith, Chiron, South Node) aligned with their trauma? I can’t remember which placement showed me that I had early trauma within the home.

I also did the personality test and got introverted something or other. Haven’t read too much up on that.

I have been granted the gift of Tarot reading only within the last few years. Every time I pull cards it’s extremely on point, in a way that could not have been planned. I only started working with reversals a couple of months ago and that has added a whole deeper layer of accuracy. I pull four cards on new moon and throughout the month for occasional questions. I don’t go to the cards every day because they work so well that I keep them for important needs.

I had my palm read once and it was super accurate.

Numerology is comforting to me and I use it to help me feel more in tune with my environment. The numbers encourage me.
Today is a 9, letting go, letting go.

I have a couple of Oracle card decks which I go to for less important issues, especially when asking for help from a protector.

Plants and animals and minerals are exceptionally important to my well-being. Crystals and minerals feel like protectors and amplifiers. Plants seem like protectors and friends. Animals are like protectors and teachers. All three are healers. All of them sense and communicate the ideas of the Goddess.

It feels good to write all that out because it reminds me of how much support is here, free and abundant, waiting to be asked for.
 
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