he would say that everyone feels that.
That’s exactly where I’d start… with his frame of reference.
EVERY disorder/condition out there is made up of things that EVERYONE (almost) experiences.
So? Pick a disorder you don’t have, for a moment. OCD, ADHD, GAD, whatever. Everyone has
moments where they experience panic, or overwhelm, or fixation, or any other symptom in the constellation. They’re just that, though. Moments. Directly attributable to something happening right then and there. They’re moments, not reality, and not present in ALL environments/situations.
So that’s where I start. Almost anyone who drives? Has had a close call or 20. The sudden ice water for blood, pounding hart, sparkle-tunnel-vision, shakes, heart in a razor clawed vice, etc. So I ask them if they’ve had that? Even having to pull over, sometimes, because they can’t keep driving until they’ve shaken it off? Yep. Okay, now imagine that happens to you
randomly. Buying cereal, walking down the street, folding clothes. Zip zero nada zilch to cause the sudden adrenaline surge. Just normal life. And BAM!!! It is such a bizarre experience, first time, that most people think they’re having a heart attack. Now? Imagine that 20 times a day. Half of which? Come with reliving, like in a dream NOT remembering, the worst moments of your life. Having a nightmare WHILE awake.
Shrug. Etc. I start with where they’re at, and have them imagine, until they can see how completely normal things (like an adrenaline surge in a near miss car accident) become symptoms/pathological when they’re not normal.