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General How Do You Handle The Debbie Downers?

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shadesofgreen

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How do you handle the people who are constantly telling you the "obvious"? "He's not good for you" or "He's unstable" or "This will never work out" or "Are you sure he isn't cheating on you" or whatever other obnoxious question and badgering session that it brings?

I recognize that my family and friends have concerns for me. I know that this relationship is difficult.

Most of this stems from my BF's Facebook, from which he blocked me. I don't care. He has bigger issues right now than that, and I don't believe he even recognizes the inferences that can be made by outsiders.

I'm just worn out, not from him, but from others taking coins from my emotional piggy bank.
 
Set boundaries. If they are at you with their assumptions, or making you feel like shit, walk away, change the subject, avoid them for a little while until you recharge your batteries.
But, if you are the one asking them for advice and know where it will lead to the usual downer conversation and advice, then you need to stop asking for advice from these people.
Simply set boundaries not only with others, but with yourself too.
 
It's assumptions.

I do not believe that I am wrong for believing my boyfriend. I do not believe he deserves to an interrogation of a stupid Facebook photo or his life in another state (we're LDR at the moment).

The constant jabbering is what is flaring up my anxiety - not him!
 
"My" supporter basically tabood the topic Mallaky. :D I am not spoken about, like some kind of childrens monster or horrible illness. I do not meet his family in any way and the only contact are the "Friendly greetings" he passes on.

I have become the one who is not talked about and it makes me sad every time I read Harry Potter. :roflmao:

In the beginning I cared, but not anymore, only when those big family festivities come around and I sit alone at home. Then I care some. It is not that I am not allowed to come, it would only feel like a warcrime. Oh well.

There was some super uncomfortable experience once, where his mum triggered me (basically deliberately, stupid cow) while I was drunk, and I got massive, massive panic and drove home drunk on sylvester eve. Yeaaaaaaaah, I know :poop:
That was that.

When my partner was in the hospital because of an accident and I ran into his mother, she seemd to be more uncomfortable then me. And I was sufficiently uncomfortable.

Frankly, it sucks and it hurts but there is no alternative for now, and as long as everyone feels awfull, nobody does. Right? :grumpy:
 
@Mallaky I'm sorry you've been treated that way. It has to be hurtful.

I am trying not to turn my BF into a taboo topic. I am so proud of the work he does, the growing he wants to do ... I know that I am open and vulnerable and could be hurt. But it's a risk I'm willing to take.

And I won't have my friends and family speculating or hypothesizing about the "crazy," "bad," or "cheating" things they believe he may be doing. It's hypothetical stress, and it's giving me anxiety. I left my family after dinner today because of the conversation we'd had; I was upset at the way they disparaged him.
 
People outside the PTSD world don't get it... and I'm like a mama bear with the topic of my vet, so everybody has learned to keep their pie holes shut around me. Either that, or I don't hang around them anymore.

Close family (my parents, sister, and my children) I educated about PTSD so they know what is going on. If he has to get up and leave in the middle of dinner to have a moment to settle down, nobody bats an eyelash. If he isn't feeling well and can't make it to a family function it's not a thing. I didn't violate his privacy by telling any kind of specific trauma details, but just the general way PTSD works. He thinks my family is more supportive than his own, in fact.
 
How do you handle the people who are constantly telling you the "obvious"? "He's not good for you"...
Well, that is pretty much everyone in my life who isn't a supporter themselves. My responses have not always been wonderful.

I told my sister that I didn't want to hear her poisonous words because my mind was already worried enough without her adding more hateful thoughts to it. I said I needed her support. I told her that I loved her and wanted to be able to talk to her about this but that I wouldn't if she wouldn't support my decision to stick by him.

My best friend and her hubby are also like family to me. They gave me the "we're worried about you speech" and when my vet went blackout my BFF turned right to the "you should leave him" comments. Told me that this isn't worth it. I told her that it was and he was and I didn't want to hear anymore of that. Her hubby has non-Combat PTSD, but he's been dealing with his for 15 years. He tried to tell me that PTSD is not an excuse for ignoring someone. He compared himself to my vet "I have PTSD and I don't ignore the people in my life." I had to rip him a new @$$hole for that comment. He's an alcoholic! He drinks himself numb every weekend. I asked him if he thought that he could deal with his PTSD if he didn't drink (because my vet doesn't drink or do drugs - he only takes the prescriptions that his doctors gave him). Needless to say, her hubby and I had a good cry in the end because he realizes how horrible his words have been. He told me that at the beginning he was using cocaine and self-medicating and that his wife saved his life. If she hadn't stuck by him he'd be dead. So he said that my vet probably doesn't know how lucky he is that I am willing to stick by him.

With other friends I just don't tell them any details anymore. I say "everything is fine" and leave it at that. I'm pretty sure that sentence is a conversation ender, but oh well.

The truth is that the only people who really understand are the other people I've met through support groups who have wounded warriors of their own. I have two "battle buddies" that are on speed dial. We're all going through the same thing and when we need to vent or unload to someone who gets it, we call each other. Without them I think my brain would have imploded this week.

I know I'm new to this site and the whole PTSD experience, but I'm happy to be there if you want to vent to someone who gets it. We have to stick together.
 
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Well, that is pretty much everyone in my life who isn't a supporter themselves. My responses h...

It amazes me the things that people will say. My sufferer was in the military but didn't get deployed. His PTSD stems from his experiences as a police officer. Maybe I'm just too much of a mama hen, but people say "what about yourself?" Or "but this isn't fair to you.." You know what? Life wasn't fair to my man. He shouldn't have to suffer with this monster of a disease, all because he decided on public service. Do they think it's good for HIM? Do they think it's good for him to wrestle with things others don't even understand, and feel like he has to withdraw to deal with what's overwhelming him?? Do they think that me walking away is what's "good" for HIM, leaving him with the fact that the person who pledged to be there for him just upped and walked away? NO. I know my friends and family are concerned for me, but I am not the only one suffering from this disease. I am not the MAIN one suffering from this disease. My man is. The negative comments kill me sometimes, and i want to jump all over some idiots.
 
Maybe I'm just too much of a mama hen, but people say "what about yourself?" Or "but this isn't fair to you.." You know what? Life wasn't fair to my man. He shouldn't have to suffer with this monster of a disease, all because he decided on public service.

Abso-freakin-lutely! I swear you are not a mama hen. We just look at things differently than others do. I was able to explain things better to some friends over the weekend by using visible medical illness as an example. I asked them if they knew anyone with cancer. I asked them how they would react if their friend with cancer was feeling unsociable on their sicker days. I asked how they would react if their friend had an adverse reaction to the medications they were taking, or if the medications stopped working. What about when the cancer sufferers are feeling down in the dumps because they're afraid that they might die, and they struggle because they don't have control of the situation? Many times people lash out in illness because they feel so helpless. Do we hold it against them? NO!

They were very sympathetic and so I said the same thing. PTSD needs to be treated like an illness. They didn't choose this. They have a medical situation where their bodies are in fight or flight mode all the time. I then asked them if they remember how they felt the last time they were in fight or flight. I said imagine feeling that 24x7, where sometimes it is so overwhelming you are just working on getting through your day by day.

I struggle with the fact that people assume that my level of dedication to my vet means that I am not taking care of myself. I eat healthy, I exercise, I spend time with friends and family, I have hobbies, AND (not but) when my vet is Zero Dark Thirty, I support him and worry about him, and care for him (I use Zero Dark Thirty because it removes the stigma by sounding like he's on a mission rather than suffering from an illness - I have IRL PTSD Support Groups in multiple states using that term now lol).

What about me? As my warrior puts it, I'm living for both of us. He told me that I live for him. Not in the sense that I have given up my life to take care of him, but more like I'm out there doing the living, when he is Zero Dark Thirty and can't. I come back and share stories and pictures of the events I attended and it allows him to focus on something else for a time.

He specifically tells me (and now all of my support groups are quoting him on this too) that "you do you, I'll do me, and it'll be all good" which basically means that he needs to do what he needs to do to take care of himself (meetings, therapy, meds, treatment, etc) and I need to do my own things to take care of myself (support groups, work, spending time with loved ones, hobbies, volunteering, etc) and that as long as we're willing to do the work, we can be successful.

Good luck and remember that part of taking care of yourself means setting boundaries. This includes with friends and with regard to conversations. I had a friend this weekend projecting her own relationship issues onto me about my vet. I cut her off mid-sentence and said "this conversation has to stop now. My relationship is not what yours was. My guy is not your ex and he's not doing what your ex did to you and I won't discuss this anymore."

What I've realized is that when you set boundaries, one of two things will happen:
1. The people will accept them and work with you within your boundaries
2. The people will cut and run, at which point, you realize you don't need them in your life anyway

It is a good way to weed out your real friends from those who aren't true to you.

Good luck with everything! Stay strong.
 
Abso-freakin-lutely! I swear you are not a mama hen. We just look at things differently than...

Thank you so much for your support. I am learning to pick and choose who I talk to about ANY of it. It's a big enough struggle to remain positive at times without other people pouring negativity into you about it. This experience is forcing me to be stronger and handle things more on my own. My anxiety is trying to get me down today, and I just refuse to let it. Today is my last day out of town with friends and I want to enjoy it.

I LOVE the "zero dark thirty" phrase. I think that's an accurate way to put it, and I think it shows respect to him that you see it that way.

I will have to work on the boundaries, both with him and with the people surrounding us. I have been on this forum in pretty much aaalllll my free time this weekend, and honestly it's about the only thing keeping me grounded. This is my first round of this with J, as our relationship is still new. So I am learning daily and some of it HURTS as you all know. I'm praying for some strength for y'all (yes, I'm southern) and myself today.
 
Thank you so much for your support. I am learning to pick and choose who I talk to about ANY of it. It'...
I'm about to be southern lol. I'm moving south in a few months so y'all away :tup:

I'm only 2.5 months into my relationship. It is all new to me too. We've had lots of ups and downs. They will never stop. Being with someone who experiences PTSD is that rollercoaster ride that you both love and hate. Some days your arms are up and you're excited :woot: and other days you're just trying not to throw up :sick:.
 
I'm about to be southern lol. I'm moving south in a few months so y'all away :tup:

I'm only 2...

We are about 2 months in, so I'm right there with you. If I'm being completely honest with myself, the hardest part right now is I get this overwhelming sadness and anxiety I get when I text him good morning and tell him I hope he has a good day and I get no response. I don't usually go days without hearing from him, but as someone with a pretty bad anxiety disorder myself, being ignored is one of my triggers... So you can imagine how that goes. (NOT saying that he's ignoring me for the hell of it) but it's still hard.

Saturday he was more talkative, but that went away yesterday. My anxiety eases as the day goes on, but when I first message him if I don't get a reply, it's really hard on me. :sorry:
 
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