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Do People Fake PTSD?

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I know a few people that do that. And one of them even tries using me to justify it. "I" don't have to work for a living. So why should he? I nearly died after getting nailed by a drunk driver, that's why I don't work. You see, so many employers are fearful of people like myself. People that take a legal stand. Employers don't like us. Nope. If they want to do something to someone that works for them, they don't want them to take a stand for themselves. I've been there.

Being a mental health nurse I see many a person faking having a mental illness or a physical illness. From what I see they usually want someone to "save" them and to be looked after.
Ok. Considering your level of professional education, who is truly the mentally ill here? Us, the PTSD recipients? Or the fakers? Things that make ya go "hmmm", eh? lol!

As for the ones that do it for financial gain....they disgust me.
Yep. Are we the ones that need medication, or the fakers?

I would much rather be healthy and not have to take medication, visit doctors and counsellors just to be able to deal with everyday stressors. I would love to be able to head out and just pay a bill without it being a huge ordeal because it involves me being in a crowd and interacting with a stranger who now holds a slip of paper with my address on it.
AAAAAAA-MEN!
 
I'm confused. I was just informed yesterday that I have PTSD, and I feel embarrassed, weak, ashamed, and physically ill about the entire thing. Why would anybody just walk around saying they had such a condition? I obviously can't speak for anybody else here, but it seems like it would be difficult to tell friends and family that, let alone a stranger. I haven't told anybody yet (except here, but I don't really think that counts).

And how frustrating to those who endured groups with attention-hog members. I attended a cognitive behavioral therapy group several years ago for depression, and it was made quite clear to us that we were not to monopolize the sessions with our "woe is me" stories (sorry, it was far more eloquently phrased that what I just typed out).
 
Yeah I not a fan of the "woe is me" stuff either. However, sometimes it is necessary. I attend a weekly therapy group for men recovering from childhood sexual abuse and while I instantly recoil when some other members talk this way I'm realizing I do so because I am mimimizing my own history, i.e. by saying to myself "it wasn't that bad", "I don't need to be here, I should just get over it" etc, when in fact its exactly where I need to be and I should be acknowledging it was in fact that bad or I wouldn't still be living with the aftermath of it today. That said, there is a difference between being honest with ourselves and others (when it is appropriate) about our own difficult life experiences in order to heal + over-dramatizing things simply for the sake of garnishing attention. God knows why someone would want attention for something as horrible as being sexually abused when I really would not have anyone know since it feels so shameful and go on about my life like it didn't happen. Regrettably, however, there are a number of people in it just for the attention, although I deal with them simply by focusing on what I need to do for myself, the rest of the world be damned.
 
People who 'fake' PTSD do it for many reasons. Best to trust they will be eventually outed for being the - whatever - they are that they think that's ok.

People with PTSD don't want people to know...and struggle for normalcy.

I'd rather have 1,000 fakers get away with it than 1 sufferer go untreated.
 
Sorry guys, this thread makes me really mad. Who are you to judge whether another person has PTSD or not? This is up to the qualified therapists (who are the experts) to determine, not you. I don't care if you have an undergrad in psychology or not, it is not your place to decide, leave it to their therapists. And as Bloom said, a company can request a letter from a qualified psychologist if there are concerns - that is the company's job to explore not yours. Just because you have PTSD, does not make you an expert in the diagnosis of PTSD. Psychiatrists and psychologists are the experts, leave it to them to do their job. Clearly something is wrong if individuals fake PTSD, but there are no limits to the types of trauma that can cause PTSD and comorbidity is obviously quite common. How do you know that the 'faking it' response is not a possible comorbidity? It is obviously that persons 'coping mechanism' for something that has made them unwell. You don't know these people, you don't know their case, you don't know their history, you can't diagnose another PTSD sufferer just because you have it. For goodness sake, leave it to the experts to sort out and leave judgmental attitudes at the door.
 
I was looking for info on how easy would be for someone to fake PTSD for attention. I've read quit a bit about PTSD, but it's not the same as hearing from someone dealing with it everyday. I know someone who says she has PTSD, she will purposely think about things she knows will upset her, and consumes 1/2 to 1 big bottle of wine. Then has what I'd call a temper tantrum. She want's pretty much wants any and everybody know. She posted it on facebook.
Your best guess is faking?
 
You should consider looking at the post immediately prior to your own. This thread is one that irritates a lot of the members, so I suggest you tread forward with extreme caution.
I know someone who says she has PTSD, she will purposely think about things she knows will upset her, and consumes 1/2 to 1 big bottle of wine.

Let me start by stating and asking just a few things. Has this person had a traumatic experience that you know of? Because what you believe to be "intentional thinking" may not be intentional at all. For people who suffer from trauma and post trauma, it is often not a choice. And alcohol and substance abuse problems are quite common in trauma survivors. Posting her diagnosis on Facebook may be her way of reaching out, even if it does not make sense to you. Trauma seldom makes sense to a person who has ever experienced it.
 
I want to add one thing, that we should all keep in mind whether we are here as trauma survivors, supporters, researchers, critics or skeptics.

When talking about conditions that are described as a mental health conditions- whether it be PTSD or not- that there is much that science can not answer for. While doctors and medical researchers have put in their time and efforts to best explain why the human brain reacts to situations in the manner that it does, much of their findings have not been conclusive. In some cases, there simply is no explanation. What it means in a real life, day to day setting is that each human being will respond differently, sometimes with extreme variations- to the exact same set of circumstances. What one person sees and believes should not be labeled as trauma, another person indeed experiences real trauma. Why? There is no answer for why, but regardless it bears truth.

Now bear in mind (it will seem off topic, but I promise it is absolutely relevant) that in research they are (to present date) only able to identify 9 percent (that is not a typo- only 9) of what our genetic make-up actually does. In that 9 percent it includes physical characteristics, physical and neurological function, etc. But what is in the missing 91 percent? Well, that remains a large mystery. However- research and studies have proven that the basic genetic coding DNA (deoxyribonucleic acid) is altered when experiencing trauma, and a fetus can undergo the same basic DNA changes while in utero. Real life scenario- An expectant mother suffers a trauma and the related post stress accompanying it- the mother and the fetus suffer a DNA change that may cause difficulties after the birth of the child- the mother may have an increased level of anxiety while the child may suffer from increased anxiety well into his or her adulthood but may also develop more honed instincts. The same is true of the mother if the trauma is experienced prior to conception of the fetus. So what we experience, what changes occur in our life, physically change us. And we pass it on. We may well develop PTSD because there is some little coding that was altered well before we were born and have a predisposition to it- making some events that do not seem to fit into the trauma category a traumatic event for the person experiencing it. It brings up an excellent question, I think, when I read the post about the woman who gave birth, perfectly normal childbirth, perfectly healthy baby- what if in her DNA something is triggered that is not yet understood by science because it falls into that 91 percent category, and brings this anxiety of trauma out? Could it be that her mother or grandmother experienced difficulties in child birth, and that the woman who suffered no trauma had the basic instinct of her DNA kick in and complicate the experience for her? Probable, no, possible, yes- there just is not enough information, evidence or science to de-code it.

Sorry for rambling, I just had to get that out since it is applicable to the topic, and it should give us all something to consider as we venture forward and try to hold on to our ability to have compassion for one another. Just because it doesn't make sense, does not make it any less so. Is that not what PTSD is all about in the end? Making sense of the things that do not make sense.
 
You should consider looking at the post immediately prior to your own. This thread is one that irritates a lot of the members, so I suggest you tread forward with extreme caution.

Let me start by stating and asking just a few things. Has this person had a traumatic experience that you know of? Because what you believe to be "intentional thinking" may not be intentional at all. For people who suffer from trauma and post trauma, it is often not a choice. And alcohol and substance abuse problems are quite common in trauma survivors. Posting her diagnosis on Facebook may be her way of reaching out, even if it does not make sense to you. Trauma seldom makes sense to a person who has ever experienced it.

You're right, who am I to judge what's traumatic to her and what isn't. That said I do have a few questions,and I'm trying very hard to use proper grammar,but I just can't figure out how. I'm very sorry if I don't , but now the questions.
I'm bi-polar and I really had to want to get better. Is PTSD like that, in that you really have to want to control it, before you will take the steps to try. I know bi-polar is forever, is PTSD that way or can it be cured? I see this person doing some of the same things I did, being the victim, using the illness to get what you want, but if they said NO you would have an "attack" and the only way to calm you down is to say yes. I am so embarrassed to have to admit I did those awful things to the people I loved, and tried to help me.But as much as they loved, were willing to anything. I was the one who had to want it.

I am really sorry if my grammar isn't right.I do have a bit of trouble that way. But it's no excuse, I'm willing to learn.

J_C
 
There is a lot of information on this site that Anthony has put up for everyone to download and read. I don't have a clickable link to it, but if you click on home and scroll down you will see it in the left hand column towards the bottom of the page. It is a PDF file.

PTSD is not the same as Bi-polar. Ptsd is forever, and the goal is to use methods to manage symptoms until you are back to living a seemingly normal, healthy, happy lifestyle. I believe that a person with any disorder whether it be bi-polar, ptsd, depression, etc. must want to seek help. You can not force a person to accept treatment, unless it is the court, but that is not what we are talking about here- we are talking about what a person needs in order to manage symptoms, and for that you do need to be willing to do. PTSD may cause a person to react with hostility when they are faced with anxiety and stress, which may well be what she is experiencing when she does not get what she wants. The heightened anxiety that goes with it may seem outrageous to most, while in the survivors eye it is perfectly justifiable because their reaction on the inside is often as wild as it appears on the outside. Especially if they are not yet able to manage let alone to understand their symptoms.

Your grammar is fine. I am accustomed to non- native english speakers.;) Welcome to the forum. Please take the time to look around on the forum, there truly is a lot of information available here that may be able to help you, and your friend.
 
I am SO GLAD someone posted about this issue! I have encountered so many stories om people who have self-diagnos themselves with ptsd over the littlest things. I have seen people try to diagnose someone else, and convince themselves that person has ptsd.

Here's the reality...only a PROFESSIONAL can diagnose ptsd! People want to be the victom all too often, and therefore, in an attempt to gain attention, tell people they suffer fom ptsd as a way for people to feel sorry for them, like "Wow, their life was SO traumatic!" and feel sorry for them.

To me, it's a slap in the face! There are people out there who have suffered horrors beyond some peoples' wildest imaginations, and these "fakers" and attention-seekers are exactly the root of why this disorder is so commonly mis-diagnosed and left un-treated. There are SO MANY other disorders out there that cause people to have symptoms that are unexplainable. But actual TRAUMA is much more than not getting enough attention as a child, getting into a fender-bender, etc.

Psonally, I was diagnosed by a psychologist and a psychiatrist. The things I endured causing this disorder were horrific and morbid, to say the least. Then I see people self-diagnosing because it's "cool" to have a disorder like this anymore. It's difficult for me to witness this sort of ignorance, because people who were professionally diagnosed are people who are truly suffering and need true, knowledgeable help and support. Not woe-is-me stories.

Thank yiu for posting this!!! And for those of you who have self-diagnosed this disorder, please seek professional opinions before insulting people who are here for support for a dehabilitating, life-altering disorder. People with ptsd are nearly at the ends of their ropes (as you can probably tell by my ranting), and we have little-to-no patience for attention-seekers and know-it-alls.

For those of you here sufing with the actual disorder, my heart, hugs, and prayers go out to you and yours!
 
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