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She acts as if "it is what it is, and I should just accept it".

You can love and support you sufferer without having to become a doormat. It is ok to set boundaries. If you cannot tolerate lashing out or verbal abuse, then make that a boundary. Yes, it is a symptom of PTSD, but those exact same words and behaviors coming out of any other person would be considered abuse, and you do not have to accept it because your partner is sick.

You cannot engage a sufferer when they are lashing out at you. That is not the time to discuss how they are hurting you. You just have to put a stop to it. Simply say "I can no longer talk to you when you are lashing out at me. I have to go. You can contact me when you calm down." Then remove yourself from the situation and stick by what you say. That is you setting a boundary. You will not tolerate being treated in that manner, and if she tries to, you will leave until she can control herself. Be consistent.

It is very easy for PTSD relationships to turn codependent. It is good that you want to educate yourself on PTSD and how it works. That is a great first step. But you also have to learn to take care of yourself as a supporter. You are not a doormat or a martyr, you are a partner. Don't be afraid to stand up for yourself. Relationships are give and take, 2 sided things. One it turns into a one-way street, it is no longer healthy.

There is a large supporter section on here, and lots of good advice there.
 
You can love and support you sufferer without having to become a doormat.

It is ok to set boundaries.

It is very easy for PTSD relationships to turn codependent.

Don't be afraid to stand up for yourself. Relationships are give and take, 2 sided things. One it turns into a one-way street, it is no longer healthy.

Awe...Sweetpea, you're great! You put quite the essence of what makes a healthy relationship (PTSD or not!!!) in just one post! I'll bookmark your post! :wideeyed::tup::wideeyed:
 
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Hey guys and gals, the attempt of this web sight is to help one another. Sadly I feel as if I am reading CNN remarks. Angry persons who need a platform. Here is my story, take it or move on. I was an AF vet. Then I spent 25 years at Dulles and Potomac keeping your ass safe. I am now retired. I rocked at my job and I was there that day. If you want to question me , do so.
 
I also have PTSD. I was not intending to attack you in any way, that's why I said I know. I lost my career to PTSD too. I was commenting on the fact the original poster's girlfriend expected him to accept her behavior because she had PTSD. I was not commenting on your relationship. I hope you didn't take that as an attack on you, I was actually saying I know how it can destroy your life. I was an ER nurse, well respected. I saved lives. Now I am at home.
 
I'm new, but I thought I better mention... possible trigger alert?

I hear you and I totally relate to your girlfriend. I go through something very similar with my husband all the time. I want to try and help you if I can. But I'll just say up front... when you're calm and away from your girlfriend, think about how much you're willing to take to try to help this person you love. Then think about how much you SHOULD take and think about the difference between the two. No one here can judge that for you. As a sufferer, I would want my partner to stick it out with me. But, of course you shouldn't let yourself be abused either!!! If it's a toxic relationship, then maybe you should get out. I can't say. But like they say on airplanes... put on YOUR oxygen mask first and then help others next to you. You gotta be able to take care of yourself first. You gotta take responsibility for diving into your girlfriend's problems (if that's what you decide to do) and just acknowledge that's it gonna be bad and do your best to love and help your girlfriend, OR just admit that it's too much to take and get out. Like people have said here, there's lots of advice on this website about getting out of abusive relationships, and I'm sure they're more eloquent and I'll leave it to them to give you more of that important advice. Take their advice very seriously.

I lived in an abusive household as a child. It was really bad. No one ever helped me. I finally got out when I was 20 years old and I spent years just trying to be normal, I focused all my energy on being a really good person and working hard. I was very successful... I had lots of friends, great jobs, lots of respect, I got married, I had kids. But then a number of new life stresses came along... I got married, I had kids (LOL ;D), grandparents died, we moved, new jobs, big promotions, a very sick child... just life, but like a hammer on me, one thing after another. And then it was one thing too many, one set of especially stressful circumstances and I cracked. I was exhausted all the time. I would freak out and start yelling and screaming about the stupidest, everyday things. I was completely inconsolable, there was nothing that would make me feel better. I would get freaked out by the simplest things... my husband would walk into a room and I would scream and start crying. Let me state right here, my husband's practically a saint, he's a good man and not abusive to me in anyway. But, you see, having any dark-haired man standing over me is a trigger. Sometimes just eye contact is a trigger for me! (I could explain that... but it's awful, just trust me, it's a trigger.) And when I get triggered one time too many, I just snap. I scream and yell and cry. Sometimes, when it's my husband that triggers me, I yell about how he didn't do this or that or he's never nice to me, or he doesn't understand, or he's never there for me, or he's stupid or mean or whatever. Sometimes I go ballistic and yell about how he didn't run the errand he said he was going to run. It's awful and stupid of me and I feel terrible and I apologize all the time afterwards. Then sometimes I just can't apologize anymore because I never wanted to say those things or do those things in the first place.

Over time, I've come to think of it like this... it's like there's this poison (all the pain of past traumas) inside of me and I have to get it out. And just like real poison, my body's reaction is to vomit the poison out. But this is a brain thing... so the "vomit" is all words, words that represent fear and anger and sadness and helplessness. So... maybe she's yelling at you about how you do this or didn't do that or whatever... but, if it's like me, then maybe she's just so filled with pain and fear that she's up to her neck in it and some of it just has to get out however it can. And maybe she hasn't really come to "know" her trauma and she's just "reacting" to it. Like, sometimes I can tell when I'm about to lose it, and if I get triggered just one more time, it's all going to come rushing out... but I can think to myself... my husband is a tall, dark haired man, but he's a good man, he's not the person who hurt me as a child, I'm safe, I'm in a good, safe, clean house, the doors are locked, I'm okay, this isn't like my childhood home, I'm okay. I can do that because I "know" my trauma. I recognize what sets me off. I've accepted that I can't just try to "get over it," that I'm messed up and I have to adapt to that reality. But maybe your girlfriend doesn't even have that. Maybe the poison just has to get out, and maybe you can just sit there with her and hold her hair, y'know? It's terrible for you, I know (and I'm not trying to downplay that AT ALL), but since she's suffering from PTSD, it's terrible for her, too.

Maybe your girlfriend just wants to put the past behind her, but then it all comes out anyways, uncontrollably. I went through years like that, where I figured I had suffered enough. I would be good and work hard and do the right things, and the past would be the past and I wouldn't even have to acknowledge it to myself or anyone else. Only, it doesn't work like that. Our brains don't work that way. They latch onto past dangers, and keep putting them on the top of the priority list to be checked for again and again and again everyday. And it's exhausting. It's exhausting to go through my brain's checklist again and again... is there a dark-haired man, dirty house, no food, no way out, loud noises, people upset, people staring into my eyes without blinking, doors unlocked. And each of those things on the checklist brings up a memory of my childhood. And before I can do anything each day, before I can tackle my own to do list... make the bed, breakfast, grocery shopping, watch a movie, I have to tackle my brain's safety checklist over and over and over. And deal with bad memories that pop up or use my energy to build a wall and push those memories away. And sometimes I crack and everything my brain is reminding me to worry about completely floods over me and I'm gone. Things are out of my control, and I've got to get the pain out, get something out, get anything out, or I'll drown in it all. So I yell at my husband about how terrible he is that he didn't wash the dishes or that he doesn't understand or sometimes how much I hate him. Because that's something that I can get out. Something that represents the fear and anger that I'm really feeling.

Over time, my husband and I have both come to recognize that there are times when I'm just vomiting out the poison, when I'm lost in the flood of pain. And he sticks with me. I don't know why. Actually, I don't think he should. I apologize a lot and try to do better. I tell him that I didn't mean those things. I know saying bad things to him hurts him a lot... but it's all outside of my control at times. I can make a thousand resolutions to do but, but when the flood hits... it's too late... I can't control it and I can't calmly say, "Okay, honey, I'm about to vomit up 20 years of pain, but it's not you, it's me. I can't talk about being beaten as a child, so I'm going to tell you I hate you because you didn't do the dishes. So just ignore me and hold my hand and stay with me if you can, because it's bad for me right now, but it would be worse if I'm all alone with no one to help me." But I can't say that... I just lose it.

And yes, there's this whole list of things to make it better... therapy will help, and meditation, and journaling and yoga and mindful thinking and exercise and more therapy and medication, etc. But none of those, or even all of those, are a panacea. They're not a cure all. Going through trauma is bad and it's going to stick with you for life. Maybe you'll get used to it and learn ways to deal with it and that's the best you can hope for. I'm still struggling. I try to use all the tools and I'm still struggling and sometimes the flood hits despite everything I try to do and I'm drowning in it all. But it's better not to be alone.
 
I'm so sorry, I got kinda caught up in that last reply. I'll keep my replies much shorter in the future. Sorry! Sorry! Sorry!

Specifically, I wanted to say... she may be getting upset because she's holding back the flood all day, and one more thing is just too much. It's totally not your fault. It just happens that's it's the straw that broke the camel's back, y'know?

You said "It seems like the better things are going between us, the worse the abuse is when it happens." I get that. That happens to me... the longer I'm able to hold things back the worse it is when it finally all comes out. It's not a matter of willpower or being a nice person... it's somewhat uncontrollable. I think everyone with PTSD has to "do the work." She has to talk out her past traumas (get all the poison out as much as possible) and learn to recognize and deal with her reactions to triggers. So first, she's got to admit that she has PTSD and she can't willpower her way out of it. It's not going away. That's a huge hurdle. Then she has to find things that help... talking about her traumas, therapy, exercise, reading books about PTSD, recognizing and dealing with triggers, meditation, yoga, journaling, etc. That step can take years. Things can get worse before they get better. Just the process is difficult... going to therapy and finding a good therapist, trying different treatments (they might work, they might not, they might make things worse). She could definitely use someone by her side... it's just not going to be easy. She's suffering already, the idea of doing more things she really doesn't want to do is overwhelming. Of course, if she doesn't get to therapy, it's not going to get better, either, but that thought doesn't make it any easier for her. Do what you can to help. Talk to her when she's calmer (don't put it off because you're enjoying the "good" times before she gets upset... and yeah, sometimes talking about this difficult stuff is going to make her upset and fly off the handle, until she's "done the work," it's not going to get better. Getting better is a process.) Anyways, when in doubt, put yourself in her shoes and always take care of you.
 
Hey guys and gals, the attempt of this web sight is to help one another. Sadly I feel as if I am reading CNN remarks. Angry persons who need a platform. Here is my story, take it or move on. I was an AF vet. Then I spent 25 years at Dulles and Potomac keeping your ass safe. I am now retired. I rocked at my job and I was there that day. If you want to question me , do so.

Sorry, guess I was having a bad night last night. Some gov agency just sent me a file that PTSD does not exist and if it did, then I don't have it. Three years of jumping at every sound and feeling fight or flight just by a knock on the door. So I got out of line typing.
 
You are all wonderful. Thank you so much. All of your posts are helping me...especially from PTSD suffers....and D123, yes, your situation is very similar. You are right about it building up and no stopping it when it comes out. I asked her today if she knows when it is going to happen. She said, most times yes because she is agitated all day. I believe she really is trying to do the work. It is sometimes hard for me though because it appears (to me) that she is not "sorry". Maybe she is embarassed or feels bad and that's why she doesn't say it or act (in my eyes) like she even cares that she hurt me, etc. I do realize that I can help our situation by communicating better. Most times, I can tell by how she is talking that its getting ready to spill out. So, if I can figure out how to work with this ....
 
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