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Dear @Junebug you are doing so well. You are making progress. I am so happy to read this all progress you have shared previous week.

All you need to do is carry on.

Gentle hugs back at you,too. :hug: :hug: :hug:
 
Some (not many) moments since I've felt sad. But I think what is good is that I realize there's no 'reason' in the sense of struggling with a topic, or blaming myself, or not knowing what to do, etc. So those feelings can be there anyway. Somehow that helps a lot. That it's not because of those reasons, that even doing something 'right' or feeling more peaceful & also not overthinking or blaming myself those moments can pop up.
 
Dear @Valentino , I'm sorry I just can't find the quote for looking about "(you) didn't feel that I have a feeling of self-hatred", or some words to that effect, but I wanted to thank you because it has helped me think about it & realize something. It has helped me to realize I have great shame to have an opinion, or rather have to explain why I do as regards myself. And when I feel happier or more at peace I have less self-hatred, or no focus on it, even if it's under the surface. I think (know) for me it's thanks to God, & my friend's help. And the kind people here, too, they are so encouraging, my heart is very thankful & very amazed I should receive that in my life. All of it is very contrary to how I feel as regards myself.

Because last time I felt 'happy' or much progress I accidentally found myself just about killing myself (I was doing an affirmation-, it seemed great), I wanted to not let myself do that this time. I've realized so much is trust. And that SI for me equates entirely to feeling I am a burden, not escaping pain of circumstances. I am learning in a small way to cut myself some slack, & to try to do it without great guilt or feeling like I am being delusional to afford it to myself.

I think we do get some 'sense' or 'feeling' of what works for us, & equally what we are not capable of. Someone said our 'limbic brain' needs sensory distractions, I think that is also very true. I can feel like hell but if all of a sudden there is a dog there to pet I forget mostly everything.

I think we each have different needs or need to go about things differently depending on our how 'raw' we feel.
 
I agree with that last sentence very much Junebug.

Maybe it is to do with having different world views, personality and life circumstances. A situation that might be difficult for one person could be easier for another. I think every person has the same basic needs, but what I feel I need may differ from what someone else feels they need quite greatly.

I also like the idea of sensory distraction.
 
@Junebug - Is this the quote you were referring to?
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It did occur to me, I so despise myself it makes it very difficult for me to live with 'me'.
The words point towards self-hatred, but for some reason I'm not feeling any of that in your emotional tone.
It has helped me to realize I have great shame to have an opinion, or rather have to explain why I do as regards myself. And when I feel happier or more at peace I have less self-hatred, or no focus on it, even if it's under the surface.
This is a very big realization! Western society's norm is to actively cover-up shame type emotions and feelings. Many people are so good at this, that their shame has now moved totally to their unconsciousness, while it's still sitting right below the surface.
I think we do get some 'sense' or 'feeling' of what works for us, & equally what we are not capable of.
And this insight is recognizing exactly what shame can do. Healthy shame is an emotion we feel or sense which tells us exactly what our current abilities and limitations are.

By covering up all our shame, there is the short term benefit of feeling better because we avoid our toxic shame. But it also creates a BIG blind spot, where we don't know our current abilities and limitations, which increases fear & anxiety and lowers motivation, trust, confidence, etc.
 
Thanks @Valentino , yes it was. I didn't know this was 'progress'? I am not lacking in shame, if anything I have too much (toxic plus healthy). It seems most people on the forum (women more so, perhaps?) have no lack of shame!

I'm not sure if it's 'shame' per se that helps me know my limitations, as simply recognizing my limitations as in what makes me too depressed, meltdown etc. I'm ashamed I'm not stronger, but I don't think it's all shame that causes it. Perhaps though it contributes to the depression etc.

I'm actually glad to see I feel these negatives when the shame isn't present, too. Then I know it's just 'normal'/ can be expected sometimes.

Thanks V. :hug:
 
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