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How Do You Find The Words For Difficult Topics?

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Dear@Junebug you just went on to find out gentle thoughts and you worked it out. I know you are not aware how you did it, but one day you will notice it with much more awareness. I am giving you one example what you did here. Think you wanted to go from A to B. You just hopped into your car and went for B point. You didn't think how your car works, how your car is built. You just hopped in it and made it from A to B. Does this make sense? You didn't do second thinking in short if I want to say. :)

since this was the same scenario as last time we are waiting to hear
Excuse me, did I miss something? If yes sorry, please explain this. It feels like it is something about self responsibility.

Hugs and love for good Sunday. :hug:
 
Thank you dear @Tanishq , yes I think I do understand what you mean, I 'got there' without self-recriminations for once. :hug:

Oh, was waiting for sister's update on health, though bad better than I expected it to be. And for the first time I wasn't waiting for ages to hear, which is a real blessing. The other sister there tried to 'stir the pot', so to speak- said to call days in advance of results, but didn't share update or 'why' or what was going on. If I/ we do that it ends badly, so we didn't this time, & I just sent a really brief e-mail after a few days of hearing nothing else. But I didn't expect to get a 'normal' call/ mail/ reply for God-knows-when. It's hard to worry & wait every day or be given 'hints' that result in worrying more but no response.
 
Gee, I've had the strangest few days, & I don't know where to put this because I think it belongs in the "I realize that.." thread but it is too long, & still does come down to finding the words for difficult topics. That includes posting here.

Much of difficult topics I now think just come back to either related to the ptsd, for me (or doubt I'm fairly & accurately assessing something). A friend on here pointed that out. Or my thoughts about them & what I should 'do' or am responsible for or 'should' feel even, are (at times heavily) influenced or coloured by the ptsd, by the past, by my childhood, by abusive circumstances, by self-hatred, & by feeling like a burden. (Other than that I'm 'ok'. :alien::eek: :bag::rolleyes: )

Someone asked me out I've known a long time, I got out of it but they said "I am the nicest women they know in the city", (though they added they 'want what I've got', -whatever that means). But I felt 'good' not going out. Then a long-time friend said the next day "You aren't looking for a boyfriend - what's wrong with you?" (I had said "It wasn't a priority"- being asked out is inversely proportional to wanting to be asked out, btw). . I thought, "Ya- what IS wrong with me?", followed by "where do I begin??- let me count the ways!" :( But then I thought I'm happy to be able to choose, as I told that friend it depends on the person one dates (or doesn't). (She then went on to tell me "a woman she knows with grown children, her H left her, & she committed suicide- due to her financial struggles!" :( :eek: I didn't know what to think except for the obvious- poor woman, I know how feeling that badly feels. :( )

Then, unrelated, today they called & said after months (years really) of waiting they found me a Dr. But I thought, Not now, for myself. Right or wrong it's right for me, I don't need a physical at the moment. If I have a serious issue I'll get a Dr at a clinic. I have tossed around the idea of meds, but going by how much I am affected by my thoughts, surroundings, choices, support or lack of, abuse or lack of, gas-lighting(?) or lack of, & basic self-care (or lack of), I think it's up to me. And I have the choice to choose (sometimes) what decreases my stress, including that. Making a bit of a bubble around myself too re: the constant needs/ drama at work. Being grateful for peaceful decompression time alone I am thankful for too, speaking to who 'gets it' or not (not disclosing) is a choice too. Even viewing (or accepting) the needs or demands ptsd exerts I can just view 'as is'- that is, much of the 'difficult topics' are actually pretty common when ptsd is present. (For example, suicidal stuff etc is not uncommon at all- I could add a kazillion other things we mostly are familiar with on the forum).

So finding the words involves more choosing who to talk to, whether disclosure is safe or can be understood, 'educating' & by that I mean not expecting someone to understand or be a mind-reader, & honesty (ideally with responsibility & without denial but also being open to getting out of the loops of thinking), in the hopes of treating & understanding others better & increasing coping skills, & figuring out where I've failed but also where I haven't done anything wrong. And maybe being 'ok' with recognizing my own limitations. And sticking with people or activities that I can relate to & that help me feel better (calm, safe, grounded, peaceful, stronger in a way or more accurately less panicked or despairing, maybe even 'ok' or happy ) & minimizing with self care & emotional detachment when I can't & what I can't control.

I think in some ways if the difficult topics can't be said (terrifying as it is) nothing can be changed or faced.

If it hadn't been for fear for people I love (their welfare), & my own guilt (trying to be responsible & trying to be a better person) I would have never said a thing, ever.
 
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Hello Dear @Junebug
I 'got there' without self-recriminations for once.
Yes, this is what I meant. :)

You did right by posting here. I believe it is better to keep the various things at one place. You can keep above post in your diary,too if you have one diary on this forums. I need some time to think on post which you posted above/on Wednesday. Hope you don't mind.

Yes, I agree with some topics hard and some you can never discuss about. Let them go off? so it doesn't cause you worry in future. Free of worries about talking difficult topics. You don't need to discuss everything. Discuss what matters for you, like you and is important according to your situation.

Yes, some people over react on having life partner. LOL. Here people ask me the same, but some are well known I am forever Romeo, so they don't worry about me and keep asking me to find my wife. ;) If they are pushing you to do things you don't want to do at the moment, gently reply them "yes you are right, ok ok. If you wish so." Like this and move on. You can have your right man at any age, love doesn't look at time.

About your sister, I get it now. You must be the first one always. First one to initiate the talk. Right? They must be demanding you to call them first. Not right thing to do. I can see how this has affected you. When someone keeps me asking first, by 3rd or 4th I just stop caring about them and let them go off. Give and receive needs to be balanced.

I will post more in evening.

Gentle hugs to you and hope you are having good day there today. :hug:
 
Dear @Tanishq , thank you, you are right & wise! :hug: I wish for you too a wonderful & gentle, happy day! :) :hug:

Yes, that's right! Not everything has to be discussed, by any means. And yes, as per sister she (they) say, for example, "she's dying, has tests etc", or "call (phone)", if you do they don't respond or you wait on pins & needles. Or, you (I) call & the other sister screams about something. :( Ugh I've taken to trying not to worry myself to death, but it takes practise. I have been told (twice) it's 'ok' to keep some emotional distance & love/ pray for them from a-far. (And that it doesn't make me a lousy sister to do so).

Oh PS, -that is too funny. Next time they tell me who I should be dating/ marrying I'll say "yes, sure".! :p Haven't tried that response yet. :) :laugh:

((((((((Dear @Tanishq )))))))
 
Dear @Junebug Thank you for those good wishes. I appreciate them. :hug:

I re-read it all. It seems people around trying to support without understanding you first. It doesn't look helpful to me and that's the reality, you didn't like it all. Some people should be good listener and supportive, you know. It's not that hard, but let's forgive them all.

if you do they don't respond or you wait on pins & needles.
This doesn't sound any good to me. Honestly, making someone wait or forcing someone to initiate the conversation isn't good thing. It sounds very unhealthy thing to do. I also don't see any good point in this. I am glad you spoke about it here. I hope you are not letting get them your head. I know, this has happened to me many times as well, it is hard to let them go because you feel somewhat like unworthy of healthy conversation. See, every action and word has its own effect. You deserve better people around you.

I understand you are being very kind to your sister. Your sister can learn a lot from you. Of course worry is natural when you really care about someone. :)
"yes, sure"
Hey, I also will try this response to them when they will ask me about marriage. haha. Thanks for sharing it with me Junebug, I tried to read your response again. It is perfectly win-win. Well done for finding such positive thought. Why I told it as positive thought? Because you are affirming that you allow your right partner come to you by saying yes and by being open to abundant opportunities. With this you are keeping people at bay so they won't keep asking you all the time. :tup:

Keep going ahead please. Never give up. Gentle hug for you. :hug:
 
Aw dear @Tanishq , thank you. :hug: Yes, I guess I realize things, cumulatively & individually affect me a lot. I don't think that's healthy communication either.

I also find, whether it be physical or emotional overload, at some point it just knocks me flat.

I was thinking, you know things affect us/ me in good ways, too. I never realized how wound up I am. But it explains why even when I see people genuinely smiling or laughing I feel better after a moment. Maybe it's the mind's way of saying everything is 'ok', based on visual cues? And conversely, my eyes play 'tricks' when I'm wound up, I keep feeling my heart in my throat every time I see something briefly. Like an awake nightmare, but then I realize it's nothing so awful/ gruesome as my 'eyes' thought they first saw.

And also, for a long time, I notice if I look up & someone is smiling at me the first thing I feel is shock. But it's also a feeling of, I can relax a little, compared to how I feel, if that makes sense. It (seriously) feels like my blood pressure drops.

I think not giving up can be more challenging with ptsd because (at least just for me) I have a terrible fear to hope. I mean, not straight negative-thinking, it's a little different, more like disbelief. For example, I got good news today I (hopefully?!) won't have to go to an abusive client any more. I am sooo thankful. But my head says, probably next week they'll change it back (they could). I realize logically they 'could not', either. But it's just my 'head'.

Dear Tanishq, gentle hugs & happy weekend! Thank you always for your kind & positive words. :hug: :inlove: :hug:
 
Dear @Junebug

I understand with feeling completely flat or knocked down. It happens with me as well. It takes time to recuperate strength and again stand up to live.

I was thinking, you know things affect us/ me in good ways, too.
You are showing and being more and more gentle towards you. I am noticing this in previous posts as well. Please keep it up this, just do it (that nike ad logo, do you like it? does it inspire you? I am trying to support you, motivate you more so you go more upward). One moment will come and you will have this gentleness habit in you for forever. Till then, keep going on and on. :tup:

Yes, agree with eyes playing tricks on us. What we see may not be there, what we may not see may be there. You never know until you try to know it or work around it. Does this make sense to you? It bit sounds like you are watching flashback there. What do you think? Do you see flashbacks often?
And also, for a long time, I notice if I look up & someone is smiling at me the first thing I feel is shock. But it's also a feeling of, I can relax a little, compared to how I feel, if that makes sense. It (seriously) feels like my blood pressure drops.
Yes, It makes sense to me. I do feel shock when I see people in real life. It's like our body suddenly begins to think now we are going to have bad time like previous times. I think we can break this.

You are able to discern beliefs and thoughts. Wow. I am impressed. :)

Thanks you for good weekend wishes and hugs. Happy and good weekend to you,too Junebug. Gentle hugs to your way :hug: :hug: :hug:
 
Thank you @Tanishq :hug: .I hope you are well. Big hugs to you. :hug:

Well, I'm understanding it a tiny bit better. That is, I just read sunday that suicidality has just a lot to do with being very sensitive. Well, that (for once) felt better than just thinking of myself as 'nuts' or weak. First time ever I felt semi-ok about being 'quirky'. And once my mom said that about someone, "that he was too sensitive for this world". Well, after all this business with Robin Williams it bothers me a lot though, & I mostly haven't been able to eat/ sleep.

But then it occurred to me that my problem in life (just speaking for myself) has been 'too much' reality, not too little. In other posts I have said I simply can't handle non-gentle stuff well anymore, it's like sandpaper or nails on no skin. :( But then I thought, you can't expect to be 'wrapped in wool'/ coddled. The thing is though, it isn't, or that's not what I mean. By 'gentle' I mean seeking peace, calm, kindness not violence, etc. . I've considered all these the 'extra' things- the 'intangibles' - hope, peace, faith, kindness, love, things 'working out' etc, as unrealistic, well not part of the 'requirements' of dealing with reality, not necessarily deserved or ever possible- kind of 'fantastical'- a 'fairy tale'.. I've been so reality-based I never considered to deserve those things. Or think of them. I think I would do better to be or think or live a little more 'unrealistically'. Even if they aren't possible or deserved.
 
No dear @Tanishq I don't think these are flashbacks, though they act similar (though more brief), unless they are things I can't remember. I have had on rare occassion very brief flashbacks or longer ones, but I do remember the original event when re-living it, just see details that I couldn't recall without them (the flashbacks), & feel the feelings I wouldn't have realized I guess I felt then.
 
You do deserve those things, and they are possible [responding to post before last one].

I'm struggling to post something longer Junebug, but I hear you. Maybe it's about going through so much when you are young, which is why it is too much reality? IMHO, there are bright things in amongst the horribleness of reality. Sometimes it can just be difficult to see that. The news doesn't report great uplifting stories a lot of the time. Sometimes it's hard to lift ourselves out of horribleness to see the hope. It's there.

Gentle is the word. I don't think it's fairy-tale. :hug:s. Please try to sleep and eat a bit of food [said the person who has barely eaten... I better go take my own advice ;)]. Seriously though, food and sleep are part of feeling more peaceful. They help you feel better. You know all this. I guess saying take care is what I mean.

This thread has been really helpful. Thank you Junebug.
 
Dear @rainy_daze , thank you, I feel foolish to speak this stuff. :bag: :hug:

Yes it's not the 'negative stuff' only (though I have to avoid a lot of the news because it affects me) but so pragmatic/ zero expectation/ entitlement it feels like those things are fantasy-land. Like the next thing I'll be doing is reading fairy-tales, :eek: lol. But you're right, there weren't any fairy tales growing up or after.

Except, with this Robin Williams thing they said his daughter quoted The Little Prince. I'm glad, but I love that book (which I read as an adult), & I refuse to link any other connotation to it because in many ways it explores finding meaning & not giving up, & what counts, rather than SI (to me) . Not just what is worth living for is worth dying for (as we all know) but coming to understand to find what's worth dying for is worth living for, the opposite. Oddly enough the author wrote it & had his own struggles, maybe that's why it 'makes sense' to me. But it was about an alien trying to get back home, after all . No wonder I relate. :p :alien: Funny thing is, that doesn't feel 'fantastical', :lol :laugh:

You eat too! :hug: I believe this calls for cake +/or ice cream I say in defiance! (The Little Prince would). :) :p

((((((((Dear dear RD ,xox :inlove: )))))))
 
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