• We are a multilingual website again. Read the notice about this.
  • Understand AI use at MyPTSD: all AI use is explained in our AI help page. AI use is by choice here. It exists if you want it, but does nothing unless you choose to use it.

Relationship He Doesn't Want To Be Happy?

Status
Not open for further replies.
Fear is the wrong word.

Just to be über clear, only speaking for myself, & not your vet-cop...

F...

Is it not possible to have both? Personal accomplishments and someone to share it with?
I know you only know you, but I think you may have a similar mindset because I can hear him saying what you have.
He will tell me he's not pushing me away on purpose. But his job is his priority.
I get that. My job is important, too. I guess I just don't understand why someone wouldn't want both. And I'm trying to understand where he could be coming fro. I want to understand.
 
I don't tolerate good feelings very well. I don't trust them. This relates to my earlier traumas. I feel "okay" if I'm not happy, but not angry...maybe suffering some, but not like wanting to set myself on fire. I don't understand good feelings well and on a deep level just don't believe I deserve them. So they are fleeting for me, and that seems best.

In music I can experience good feelings. So there are places where it seems like I can allow myself to feel good. But when I'm feeling really down, "happy" seems too far away and actually like a lot of pressure. I'd feel great with just getting by much of the time.
 
I don't tolerate good feelings very well. I don't trust them. This relates to my earlier traumas. I feel "...


OK. He's isolating. More than he ever has. To the point I don't even know if we're still together.
But it's almost like he is just existing. I text him yesterday. He responded with one word and not again.
I don't know what to do. Do I let him isolate? Do I back off but send random texts every few days?
I ask to see him and his response is "why are you trying to fix me". I honestly just said "can I see you this weekend" and that response was so far in left field.
That's what brought this whole I don't want to be happy conversation to begin with.
 
Is he maybe feeling some subtle pressure from you to feel better? It sounds like he feels miserable and maybe feeling pressured to feel better in order to be in a relationship. I don't have a perfect answer, but checking in although giving him a lot of space might be good for now.
 
He will tell me he's not pushing me away on purpose. But his job is his priority.
I get that. My job is important, too. I guess I just don't understand why someone wouldn't want both. And I'm trying to understand where he could be coming fro. I want to understand.

Because The Ptsd Cup Explanation

Finite resources.

With PTSD sometimes we can't even manage our first priority, much less #2-76. Singleton PTSD? Might have 40k in the bank, and not a single bill paid for months. Because priority 1 is getting to work, priority 2 is eating/sleeping/bathing (not doing that one very well), priority 3 is paying bills.

Add in relationships? Our priority structure changes around. Regardless, we have a finite number of resources to direct.

If spending time with your beaux meant you would lose your job & your home & not eat more than once a week for a month... Well... I'm sure the entire concept sounds retarded. Shrug. But I'm also fairly sure that while you might take a sick day to have sex all day, you wouldn't stay home on a day to goof off if it was guaranteed you'd be fired for missing XYZ without being in the hospital level of real sick (and maybe even then).

A lot of people cannot handle being #2 (or a distant #7) behind work, sleep, eating, et cetera... Because the concept is ridiculous. Those things are baseline for them. Ten question of having to choose between work & boyfriend only comes up if someone is moving across the country.

But when our stress cups are near full? That's exactly what we have to do: choose between "Do I eat or do I sleep?" & "Do I pay my bills or take a shower?" & "Do I go to work or meet up with my boyfriend tonight?"

If you've ever been so sick that reaching for the glass of water right next to you seems like its miles away (can you hand me that??? Pleeeeeease?), or you need to pee for 3 hours before you can dredge up the energy to get to the bathroom (and only then because while it's been uncomfortable, it hasn't been go or wet yourself)... These things are very much the same as the finite resources available when we're not doing well PTSD wise.

Would I like to have both? Absolutely. In fact, I'm often the queen of 'Have your cake & eat it, too." most of the time! But when I'm not doing well, the choices that I have to make? Mean that I have to prioritize like a mofo. Or the stress cup overflows, or worse busts, and then I no longer have choices. Because I can no longer do anything.

And by anything? I really mean anything. My stress cup busted a few years ago and on the highlight list of side effects from that? Sleeping for 6mo. (Over 20 hours a day, only getting up to pee & eat & bathe, each of those often taking me an hour!). Not being able to work for the past couple years. 10+ hours a day of flashbacks & panic attacks. Couple years of homelessness. And this is coming from being highly successful for over 10 years (and 5 years before that in PTSD chaos). When we don't prioritize & manage our stress? Our lives go to shit. Fast.

Yes. I would like to have both. Matter of fact, I'd like #1-76! But with this disorder? Sometimes it just ain't an option.

...

<grin> Now the nice thing, when we are managing our stress, is that it generally (IME) only takes a few hours / few days / few weeks to get stress levels lowered enough that we can add back in our other priorities :D Stress cups completely overflowing (aka complete breakdown) are actually fairly rare. Stress rises & we vent it (appropriately or inappropriately) and stress lowers, or we isolate & allow things to settle, or both. But the perpetual risk as stress rises? Losing everything we care about. So taking the time to handle ourselves I s pretty crucial.
 
Last edited:
But it has no chance of happening if you push away any chance of it.
Can you be open to the possibility that he might already know that, and that it still feels like too big a risk? Maybe that he's tried and been hurt so many times that trying again feels too dangerous? I can't speak for him, I don't know him. People with PTSD are individuals. Just consider that there might be more of a history than you are currently aware of.
 
Oh. Now I remember. This is the guy who lost a close friend a few weeks ago, unless I'm remembering wrong. There are a lot of factors going on here, not just a fear of trying to be happy.
 
With PTSD sometimes we can't even manage our first priority, much less #2-76. Singleton PTSD? Might have 40k in the bank, and not a single bill paid for months. Because priority 1 is getting to work, priority 2 is eating/sleeping/bathing (not doing that one very well), priority 3 is paying bills.

I usually think I'm doing pretty well because I'm getting to work and paying my bills. But that's all I'm doing. No relationships. Even casual friendships are usually too much.
 
I think the last part is what's going on now. Total overflow breakdown. He's progressed into total isolation from me. And maybe other. I don't know because he shut me out so I can't see others.
I don't want to be the cause of more stress and right now. And it seems no matter what I chose, stay or go it'll be stress.
Staying obviously stresses him. Leaving will stress him. So I'm at a loss.
 
Can you be open to the possibility that he might already know that, and that it still feels like too...

Yeah. And it's not even so much about the relationship at this point. I'm watching him self destruct and it's hard. He's self medicating with alcohol. Any time I say ANYTHING to him. He comes back with why are you trying to fix me! I just said what are you doing this weekend?
If our relationship is over, it's over. But I want him to not be like this.
He's not expressed suicidal thoughts but I'm terrified of that. He has me so worried about his safety.

And I know it sounds like all I'm talking about is "us" but I'm not. I'm so worried about him and all I can base it on is the changes with us if that makes sense.
 
Oh. Now I remember. This is the guy who lost a close friend a few weeks ago, unless I'm remembering...
A coworker about two months ago yeah.
And it's not so much the "I don't want to be happy " it's the progrssion I'm seeing. He's never said he didn't want to be happy. He's said he didn't think he could. But now he doesn't want it. It just seems like he's getting deeper and deeper.
 
A coworker about two months ago yeah.
And he might well be. Because a death is a really horrible thing and can spin the most healthy of people out for a long, long time.

He's self medicating with alcohol.
This would clearly not be helping him. If he is self medicating then imho, you are actually dealing with the alcohol right now, not your loved one. I would try not to interact with the two. I would want to be his 'non-alcohol-dependent-personna' friend. I wonder if a 'I am here if you decide not to drown your sorrows' statement would be helpful for him. I don't know. You may lose this one to a bottle....

He comes back with why are you trying to fix me! I just said what are you doing this weekend?
This^^^

Does not match
If our relationship is over, it's over. But I want him to not be like this.
This ^^^ And we are normally hyper sensitive. Even if we can't put it into words, we normally recognize when actions don't match words.....

Let him be whatever way he wants to be and let that go with loving compassion. But perhaps also let him know that you are there for him if he decides to allow himself to ground out (that means NOT using alcohol to pseudo sooth).
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Donation drives

2026 Donation Goal

Goal
$1,800.00
Earned
$910.00
This donation drive ends in
0 hours, 0 minutes, 0 seconds
  50.6%

Trending content

Featured content

Back
Top Bottom