Would you want to work with someone else in the future do you think?
Thanks for the kind words
@Teasel. No, I don't think so. I find the therapeutic relationship and the push/pull around it so stressful and head-f*cky! I know therapists are not all the same and that I may not experience these things in the same way with someone else but I really just can't bear the thought of starting over with someone else, telling them all the old stuff that I have already told mine and then getting into another situation where I feel like this about it.
And excuse me for not remembering, but did you ever see the nhs trauma service?
It was a bit of a long story but, in a nutshell, they wouldn't let me in to the trauma service because it was already over-stretched and over-subscribed..so they kept encouraging me to go their usual service route 'which is just the same anyway' (they kept telling me this, when I knew it wasn't – if the usual talking therapies service was the same as the trauma service, there wouldn't be both! And the trauma service offered additional things such as group offerings) It turned out that, because the trauma service couldn't take on any more people, they had given some of their usual talking therapies therapists some extra trauma training, so that they could see some people who couldn't get into the trauma service! Anyway....somewhat reluctantly, I said I'd give it a go. Had three sessions at the start of the pandemic with one of the therapists who'd done a bit of trauma training. Those three sessions were all assessment/info gathering sessions. She then offered me 12 sessions of EMDR and I agreed to it.
But then I caught Covid and then developed long Covid, so I was too poorly, had no energy and too much brain fog to even contemplate starting a new therapy with a new therapists – especially something as potentially intense as EMDR. Also, I spoke to my T about it – she didn't seem to really know what EMDR was (!) and seemed unhappy about the prospect of me doing it, and she basically insisted that if I give it a go, we still continue to work together alongside it so that she could be there to support me.
The woman I'd had those three NHS sessions with understood why I couldn't then proceed at that time. She was also just heading off on maternity leave. So, she spoke to her boss and made a note on my file and she said that, when I was feeling better and was ready to start up again, I just needed to call the service and they would give me someone else to work with. But seeing as so much time has passed now, I would now have to get referred again and join the waiting list again and get re-assessed again...and I've still got long Covid and am not brilliant health-wise at the mo, so I don't really see it happening...
Sorry....long answer!
know you said before that she is chronically late, but your session is about you. Her attention needs to be on you for that session, not the window, or the dog walker, or anything else. It's not only rude and unprofessional, it's unethical and at times can be dangerous.
Yeah....I don't mind the odd thing....life happens....especially now we're all used to working remotely and that requires everyone to have a bit more flexibility....sometimes, on Zoom calls, a dog starts barking, a kid starts crying, a cat trots in and chucks up a fur ball, the door bell rings, next door starts hammering something in the garden, and whatever whatever....these things happen and I don't generally mind. It just feels like, lately, they are happening more and more with her. And she doesn't seem bothered....and she doesn't seem to think that I might be bothered?
when you let her know you want to discuss the possibility of stopping therapy, she brings up an inaccurate description of the session, that she wasn't fully present for, and lays the guilt on you.
Yes, that's how I felt/feel about it. But I'm sure she wouldn't see it that way.
The bits about the dog walker and the orange juice seem like things SHE needs to work on and take some responsibility for. (
Yes...and I have always found it frustrating that she doesn't ever really own these things that she does. And, as I said above, I can cope with the odd thing happening here and there....these things happen, especially when working at home. But she will never admit that these things are on her. Which is partly why I don't believe her saying my email went into her Junk (why would it after 7 years?!) I honestly just think she missed the email in her inbox....and that isn't a big deal...but it's like she can never admit to making a mistake with this sort of stuff...so, she didn't miss my email, it went into her Junk... Yes, I realise I'm mind-reading here and, who knows what happened to my email that she didn't see. But her tendency to not take responsibility for these sorts of practical things make me doubt things she says sometimes.
Do you think she's right, that you were doing that? Sounds like maybe this time you don't see it that way
Honestly, no, not this time. I did talk a lot about the stressful things that had been going on (I mentioned these just now in my previous post) but was then later deliberately trying to shift things back to pick up threads from previous posts...and I was struggling with that and needed her to try to lead on it a bit...but it just felt like she would rather be somewhere else and that she wasn't paying attention....so I definitely saw no signs of her trying and trying to make interventions and me not allowing her.
And when I was talking about my mum's anniversary and my bro-in-law - they were both very stressful topics and I just needed to download some stuff around it to try to ease some anxiety....I don't really see how that's me being avoidant?
The way you describe it, her response doesn't necessarily sound defensive
I feel like: if she thinks I am showing a tendency in recent sessions of being avoidant, it would have been useful for her to raise that. And, as you say, we could have discussed it and, if we were both in agreement, we could have agreed what we could do instead. But she only raised it after I had very neutrally mentioned the possibility of wrapping things up....and then I wasn't allowed to say anything in response. Whether it was defensive or not (to me it still feels like it was – that she was defending herself and shifting blame to me) it certainly didn't feel useful or therapeutic. Apart from anything else, we have spent seven years with her talking about finding my voice, my voice getting hijacked in traumatic situations in the past and I was unable to speak, me not speaking up afterwards, and now trying to advocate for myself more eg with doctors. So, to throw it out there out of the blue at the end and then I'm meant to just hear that and shut up about it because she's not letting me say anything in response...it feels like a really out of line thing to do, which was not in service to me.
As for you "talking too much"...... It's hard for me to see that as a thing. After all, it's your therapy session, isn't talking supposed to be a GOOD thing?
Yeah....she has spent seven years telling me I'm too hard on myself, too self-critical and that it shows up in therapy too – but very clearly telling me there is no right or wrong way to approach therapy. But now it seems that there is – because now, I'm talking too much. I'm bull-dozing her. So, to me, that sounds like she's saying those things she thinks I'm doing are wrong?
It seems like, if there's a problem with what you're describing as "bulldozing"
I was quoting her. She said I've bulldozed her. Which made
me feel incredibly defensive because that isn't a neutral way to describe a behaviour...it's judgemental, critical and negative...
Good for you for bringing things up. I imagine it wasn't easy.
Well, to be honest, I didn't think it was going to be hard. I was just giving her a heads up! Thought the messy part might come next session if it was going to come at all. So, it took me by surprise!
Sorry for such long posts....as you all probably know by now, I am all about the detail! In posts here and also in therapy sessions when I'm on a roll talking...brevity doesn't come naturally! Thank you for sticking with it and reading all my blah blah blah and helping me think all this through. I just feel so exasperated. And that T and I are just poles apart at the mo.