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Dear brat, I do relate entirely.

You said you could think of one thing, and to that you must add the wisdom, kindness and support you give so many people here. It's sort of like 'working from home'. :) And reflects even more on how sweet and strong you are, as that is hardest to do (and least likely for most people to do) when they do not feel well and feel so down.

Even if you never got out of bed again, your value would be of infinite worth. There is only one you, and she is very precious. :inlove: :hug:
 
Junebug you are so wise and always have the right words.

A couple nights ago, I did not sleep all night. When it got to be past 6 am, I put coffee on and made my list. I make calls, etc, and visited a hospitalized relative that I am helping with getting housing. Then off to help my 36 yr old daughter who is very toxic (from 1st marraige). I realized that even exhausted and broken down, I still have the ability to be very realistic, rational, and help others in their delimma's without enabling. My duaghter, once again, was w/o money, so I had her do half hour vacuuming that I physically cannot do and bought her food.

I have 2 younger daughters, now ages 22 and 24. Maybe a year ago, my 36 yr old confessed that she rolled the 22 yr old off the bed onto the floor on purpose when she was 4 months old-(oldest was 14 yrs old). Then she confessed about abusing her first 2 children, now ages 17 and 15. She said that she put her 15 yr old daughters head thru the dry wall when she was a toddler. Her third child died of SIDS at age 4 months and was under investigation in 2000. Police told me she would be charged, then autopsy said SIDS. Then she has one more child, now age 10, who she claims she never abused. This child lived with me for a year from age 7 to 8. She had never slept in a bed of her own. While we had challenges, she became adjusted and took interest in school and friends. The 17 yr old is in a detention center, the 15 is diagnosed as mild mental retardation among many other things, and lives in a home for teens with behavioral problems, and the youngest is with my daughter now.

Yesterday, she speaks of how I sent her to placement when she was 15 when she now thinks she needed medication. I told her that I am glad I followed my intuition that my children were not safe with her-knowing what I know now. She admits that. She then said she did worse to her other sister, but could not talk about it. Said that someday she would tell me, but could not at the time, that being sober she is feeling all the guilt and may be responsible for her daughters retardation. There was no arguement. She is medicated bi polar and seemed very manic after breaking up with bf. Even though I spent two hours talking with her and trying to be logical with her, I could not wait to take her home. Communication is an energy drainer.

Once home alone, I became very emotional. When she was a teen and my littles ones would come out of a room with her screaming, (much more behaviors including assaulting me), I followed my therapist advice and had her placed. I still advocated for her mental health and treatment. I went back to school and had a very good life during her years of having these babies. I stayed very distant. The life she lived was too painful for me to be part of most of the time, so I avoided. I only got involved at such times when she told me her kids were molested, during a crisis, babys death, etc. I kept distance other times.

After I got my masters degree and other 2 daughters were older and needed less, I had more communication with her and tried to help. I have spent money I did not have, been stolen from, conned, manipulated, etc.

She was just a kid when she abused my babies. I still dont know what all she has done. Her children are so out of control that I have no contact with the oldest, little with the next two. When they were young, I suspected abuse, but never witnessed-nothing to report. Ever since she has told me these things, I feel left with the decision to report or not. Just because she has not physically abused the youngest does not mean she wont. She said the 10 yr old was screaming for her mother to get off the bf when she beat him up during the break-up.

Long and short, I think too many double binds in my life lead to bad feelings about self. I am about doing the right thing and am a truth seeker by nature, so to ignore feels bad-consequences on kids, to address/report-conseequences on daughter and kids, to removes self for self preservation feels selfish. Anyway, I ended up giving a brief report that they can investigate or not, now Im giving it to God. Its out of my hands.

I am sorry for the length of post. I think I just needed to vent on this. As I am breaking down facts of how I feel I always come up short. I cant make the world right. Maybe there is no right and wrong, only what one can tolerate for themselves. I know that I cant carry the burden-it feels too toxic. Again, sorry for ranting. I hope others can relate.
 
I can relate. I had a son who was bi polar and misdiagnosed as having ptsd. He was such a handful. He was a rageaholic too. He was always breaking things. He even broke his hand when he as angry and punched his car.

He tortured and tormented my daughter with his cruel teasing. I was pulling my hair out with him. He would always apologize afterward. But he had alot of emotional problems. When he was on his medication he was alot better, but he would not stay on his meds.

He was killed in a motorcycle accident a few years back. I just feel relief that he is at peace finally. It is so hard when our kids are so messed up. My heart goes out to you. Big hugs.
 
It is so hard to have a troubled child. I used to bite my fingernails to the quick and bleeding. When he died, I quit biting my nails. I had not realized how much crazymaking and high drama he brought into my life. He always took responsibility though. He always said no one was twisting his arm and he was making his own choices.

He was in jail once for eleven days. That was such a hard thing to go through. He was court ordered to live with us. It was really hard. Eventually he moved out but could not handle living alone. He always said he did not think he would live past thirty. He was thirty when he died. Thanks for the sympathy.

My heart really goes out to you. You have alot going on. If you ever need to talk pm me. Big hugs.
 
My daughter is the blacksheep (she says). Only person that has ever been to jail, even prison for year and a half. She has been present when her childs father shot a drug dealer and they fled to another state and was extradited back. She was in the car when 2 friends mugged an 80 yr old woman. She has been arrested for shoplifting and other crimes. We live in a small town. Her sister is 3rd year law student and worked for ciminal pros. this summer. They would pass in drug court. Uncomfortable for both Im sure. Different sides of the law. My family picture looks like insanity-LOL

Bill Cosby (I think) said that "if you can't laugh about it-you won't survive it". I think its time to find my humor again, and jump ship and start doggy paddling, back stroaking, or even just bobbling if I cant remember how to swim.
 
I had a boyfriend a few years ago who had Bi-polar and he was 100% self managing without meds. He had a career and was pretty much fully functional. I was the basket case at the time.

Not sure what his secret was? He was just very determined to do it his way.

He also started having symptoms after two friends of his killed themselves in the same year. He went mad and this was the result, so I'm not sure if circumstances play a part in whether a person can function without drugs or not? Perhaps he had symptoms for a few years that required meds, but after a while, it faded or something, and he could manage without them, as he progressed with his grief process?

Not sure about that...and we don't talk anymore, so I can't really ask him.
 
Sometimes its darkest before dawn. I think that maybe from writing here what goes through my head has been the start of help. All of your responses have been helpful. Also, the incident with my daughter got me mad-outwardly mad-not directed inward. Anger can be a blessing, it can energize (not me much), but can lead us to making some change. Those people that try to instill guilt are pro's sometimes. Then something can happen and the light goes off and you realize how unhealthy these people are and screw them all.

I saw how others negative works and games have played out in my life. Who gets to define me? I do damn it. I am grateful for this forum and all of you. My daughter is a trip and I commit to distancing myself from her. There is too much history to explain. I also realize that this is very ego related and I know that we should not let our ego get in the way of our soul self-yet I am not that self evolved and it has. My ego has been repeatedly injured. Thank you all

On a different note, I am worried about our friend Junebug. Please say prayers for her during this difficult time.
 
Hi Brat17

I used to think bad things about myself, negatively abusing myself to the point I felt that I just wanted to disappear. Over the years I have spent time analysing my thoughts and feeling about myself.

Some time I beleive that when people put me down they are projecting how they feel about themselves on to me. And to do that they have to make me hate myself too. Does that make sense?

Now, when a negative thought about myself comes up I question it. Am I being hard on myself? Where is the basis of this? Am I thinking rationally? Now think of something positive because no one is perfect, but at least I do not go out to hurt people mentally or physically. So I am not going to keep treating myself badly either and keep hurting myself.

Thinking this way is becoming more of a habit and I find I am thinking less negative thoughts about myself.

I hope you can find a release and way to cope also :)

best wishes
Saffy
 
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