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Supporter Seeking Feedback From Sufferers - How Bad Is This, Really?

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Cult

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Hi there everybody,

I usually post in the Supporter forum but I am grappling with issues in my relationship, and I want some feedback from Sufferers. Not having PTSD myself but loving someone who does, I truly do not know what is fair for me to expect from my partner.

Background:

- I have been with my partner for 10 years, lived together for 9. We are a same sex couple and our state does not allow marriage. Effectively, we are married.
- I am very codependent in general which has created many of the problems I am about to describe.
- My partner lost her job in 2009 and has worked only a few, very widely spaced odd jobs paying very, very little since then.

My partner and I have always been a very affectionate, tightly bonded couple. Lots of "I love yous," lots of physical touch, weekly sex. The last few years have been difficult largely due to financial reasons (at first). I have been paying all of the bills. Yes, this is a huge problem and one that I need to address....before you all tell me that!! :)
My partner has struggled with the loss of her identity as a productive citizen due to the joblessness which led to her showing some signs of depression and anger especially the last few years. These were generally one or two day episodes which were over quickly. Afterwards she returned to normal.

In December 2012 she turned 40. On her birthday, out of the blue she told me that she was raped 20 years ago. Ever since then she has been slowly disappearing - this is the only way I can describe it. She was still loving and affectionate and wanted to be sexual up until the beginning of April. Then, during sex, I became emotional and cried. She had a flashback to her attack at that point and ever since then, the sex and most of the love and affection have stopped. She still tells me she loves me and gives me small tokens of affection but nothing like what it was before. She doesn't want to spend much time together, doesn't want to talk about what is going on with her most of the time and tells me she is empty and has nothing to give me. Meanwhile, I am still paying for everything and she is not even trying to look for a job. The neighbors pay her to do odd jobs but nothing that would actually help with the household expenses.

In the meantime I have issues of my own that I am dealing with around my severe codependent traits. My partner sees two therapists, one a rape specialist and the other a CBT specialist. I really want her to focus on her recovery, but the thing for me is this: I cannot continue to bear this financial load for both practical AS WELL AS emotional reasons. Our lease is up at the end of July and I will need to make some sort of decision then.

My question for you: How much of a factor is the PTSD in the "shutdown" mode she is in now? If I start to hold her accountable financially, will this push her over the edge? Our "arrangement" financially has been in place since 2011. We HAVE discussed that she needs to go back to work but she is doing nothing to facilitate that.

Any other feedback you have is also welcome. Thanks.
 
Even if her shut down is PTSD related, it shouldn't change the fact that the two of you are/agreed to be in a mutual, loving and committed relationship. PTSD should not be an excuse for her to ignore your needs, requests, etc.

If you do not start holding her financially accountable, will it push you over the edge?
 
Holding her financially accountable is necessary, and she agrees that she needs to find a job. She claims that because of the PTSD she has no energy to do anything. But of course, she would find the energy quickly if I told her I was kicking her out if she did not begin to pay some bills around the house. And that (what I have and have not done) is totally on me. I am afraid of losing the relationship but I cannot continue as is. I know that for a fact.
 
So the jobless bum thing predates this current episode. If they coincided, I'd say give her some time. However, she was jobless for 3 years before the episode hit. You've given her PLENTY of time to work through the jobless thing. And, she's chosen to not do anything about it. I'm not for ultimatums unless things are to a breaking point. I think you may be at that point.
 
Thank you so much for this WONDERFUL input, it is very helpful!

It's so hard to know what to do for a few reasons:

1) I have enabled her and that is my problem not hers. I need to stop enabling and much of this will just shake out however it will.

2) I really, really do love her and want her to focus on her healing (however I do think her healing includes a job)

3) I don't know what is FAIR for me to expect of someone with PTSD. In other words, if this comes to a head and we split up as a result, I don't want it to be for reasons related directly to the PTSD. The withholding of sex and affection coincides with her flashback and that stuff, I am willing to work with (to a point).

The plan I am formulating is: in order for us to continue living together she must be working, and not babysitting the neighbor for $20 every other day, but a real job so she can contribute to the household.
 
Not saying you are right or wrong in your thinking Cult, becasue I don't know. But I am going to point out that many of the sufferers on this forum don't have jobs. Again, not saying you are wrong in your thinking. I am just pointing it out. For some a job is healing because you have goals and social interacts etc. for others it's a stressor they can't handle.
 
I guess the reason behind joblessness would be key. If sufferers do not work because of the effects of their trauma that is one thing. But my partner hasn't worked for several years. The PTSD began in earnest just one month ago.
 
From what you wrote, it seems you already know what to do but maybe needed some reassurance (?). Maybe your partner needs an eye -opener to realize how serious you are. I cannot imagine how difficult this will be for you but you must realize that if you don't take care of yourself first than you wont be able to take care of others. You are not her care taker or financial supporter.

I also am in same sex relationship and I'm the one with ptsd. We had hard times and it came down to my partner finally looking me in the eyes and saying she is not my therapist but my partner and she too wants to be able to have a bad day sometime and wants me to be there for her just like shes there for me; and if we cant be there for each other mutually than we need to part ways because she cant carry both of us through life. That did it for me. It took lots of work on my part but we are in good space now.

So I believe there is still hope but maybe you do need to put your foot down and be firm as hard as it might be.
 
Cult, how do you know when her PTSD started effecting her a month ago, this that when she told you or you noticed? She sounds like she might have problems with depression. She lost her job 3 years ago, it might have made her depressed.

But I do understand where you are coming from. You can't deal with everything. You need your partner and support and love. That's just a healthy relationship. You deserve a healthy relationship.
 
Pie, that is just what I needed to hear. Because of my codependency I have a very hard time setting limits and boundaries. Your words are very wise and I appreciate your perspective from the other side of the conversation (the person with PTSD). Thank you! :)
 
The problem as I see it is that the original problem, the unemployment was overlooked until she disclosed the trauma. Is it the additional burden of two therapists? Or is it that she has not been able to financially contribute to your household or both?

It seems as though the sexual aspect of this may have upset the apple cart as much for you as it did for her. The thing about a marriage is that things need to be communicated and decided mutually. Hopefully your partner is at that point. I would recommend some joint sessions or ask for some time with her therapists before airing your concerns if you're really invested in a marital partnership.
 
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