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Relationship He Doesn't Want To Be Happy?

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I don't even know how to try anymore. It seems like the more I offer support, the more distant he gets.

And when we discuss things I don't really point out the behavior, I ask questions so he has to realize it on his own. I don't want him to feel attacked. He normally will change the subject. But it seems lately all we talk about is him. And I don't want that. Because with him, it'll make it worse. But I don't try to. He twists everything to me wanting to fix him. He keeps saying that over and over. So of course it starts the conversation.

It probably will come up a lot for awhile. If you can, try to remember that he is talking more about his insecurities, than anything you are doing. He’s not going to fully realize this for awhile, and you probably can’t help him realize this. Especially not by asking questions to prompt him to realize it.

He’s very insecure about feeling like he is broken and needs to be fixed (and probably his sense that it is hopeless anyhow.) He is going to feel like that for awhile, no matter what you do. (I know, this SUCKS and is totally unfair to you.) It takes a lot of time to work through deep insecurities like that. It takes a lot of patience on the side of the supporter, and a lot of work on the side of the sufferer.

Ever heard the idea that someone "protests too much?" If someone is constantly premptively and defensively declaring "I am not this" ... chances are, they really actually feel like they are that very thing they are claiming so adamantly they are not.

This seems like that kind of situation. He keeps trying to preemptively accuse you of trying to fix him, no matter what you do, because it's not really about you or that he feels he doesn't need to be fixed. He probably actually feels really strongly that he needs to be fixed and there is no way to do that, so it's a very painful thought.

I went through a tough season where I felt like everyone who knew me wanted to fix me. I took in everything as yet SOMETHING ELSE I was just a broken mess about that needed to be fixed, and I got defensive about it, a bit like him. Trauma sends a very LOUD message that the victim of the trauma is broken beyond repair. Broken to the very core. This is a distorted thought, but it’s one sufferers often believe. Many people believe it because it pushes away the pain of the truth.

For me, it was a defense mechanism to go around telling everyone stop trying to fix me. If the problem was that everyone was trying to fix me, then I could ignore my very deep belief there was a problem I could not fix, and that problem was the pain I was in.

The thing that turned it around for me was telling a supporter in my life that I was sick of everyone trying to fix me, yet again…

...and this supporter replied, “You are not broken. You don’t need to be fixed.”

It stopped me in my tracks. Most everyone responded with trying to tell me that of course they were trying to fix me, don't I want to feel better? I was so broken in xyz ways….

But this supporter, said the thing I least expected. Directly and clearly.

It caught my attention. They repeated it. I started to listen to them, REALLY listen, and they explained, “You don’t need to be fixed. You are not broken. You need to make some changes, and work through this grief and the pain of the trauma, but YOU (justmehere) are not broken. YOU don’t need to be fixed.”

See the difference?

When this supporter pointed this out to me, it broke down my defenses. They and I both knew things needed to change and that I was in a world of pain, and they didn’t ignore that fact at all. But they also didn’t inadvertently fuel the lie in my head that I am damaged beyond repair. They accepted me, without condoning my behavior that was destructive to my life. It was exactly what I needed to hear.

He doesn’t see the difference between the two things right now. You might be able to help him see it, if he is ready to see it.

I know you miss him a lot. He is lucky to have someone like you who cares so much. I hope you are finding some comfort in the middle of missing him, and holding any boundaries around what you need and what behavior you will and will not allow into your life. I hope that he can see how much you do care for him soon. :hug:
 
It probably will come up a lot for awhile. If you can, try to remember that he is talking more about...

He's lost it. I think he finally broke down. We've been arguing for no reason and I don't even know what he's talking about. He's twisting everything I said about myself into me saying its him. He's text so fast I can't even keep up. And I'm really worried right now.
I don't even know why we're fighting.
 
This is a good subject. I really don't think my Vet wants to be happy. He is also a recovering Alcoholic and has been sober 30 yrs. He went through AA but did he really get what he needed from the program. If so why is he so miserable part of the time now. I have depression and have been where I didn't know how I would make it but I kept on trying something else to get myself out of it. Eventually it led to a divorce but I know I am on the road to happiness now. He looks for other things that will give him momentary 'thrills' like playing what we have in Texas called 'scratch offs'. He shouldn't be gambling at all. He has admitted he has very low self esteem and feels you never get over it. I think some of these things he uses as excuses not to move on with his life.

I don't know. It's difficult to explain him. But I think some people are happy in their misery and have lived that way so long they don't know any other way. It's like someone that is in our Al Anon group. She says she has been so use to the drama in her past life when her A husband was drinking that she doesn't know what to do now. She causes drama. Yelling at fellow drivers on the road etc. It's sad.

I wish you the best. I know it is so hard to see them suffer and there is nothing we can do to help them. Al Anon has helped me a lot just to learn to focus on myself and my peace and serenity and let the rest of it go that is out of our power.
 
This is a good subject. I really don't think my Vet wants to be happy. He is also a recovering Alcoho...
I don't even know what to do anymore. I haven't talked to him since our fight. I feel like just giving up. But I don't want to. I just can't take this.
 
That just totally confused me. Are you OK? You sound upset
I mistakenly read the title as "he doesn't want ME to be happy" so my comment was confusing in relation to the topic. I am more upset than usual, confused, withdrawn, seeing things not there and not seeing things that are there, angry at myself for not getting out of a relationship that is destroying me.
 
I mistakenly read the title as "he doesn't want ME to be happy" so my comment was confusing in relation to t...

I'm angry at myself. This guy is destroying me and I can't let go. Even I try, he pulls me back in, but still gives me nothing
 
I'm angry at myself. This guy is destroying me and I can't let go. Even I try, he pulls me back in,...
That I can relate to.

Gavin de Becker who wrote "The Gift of Fear" says "the battered woman gets a powerful feeling of overwhelming relief when an incident ends. She becomes addicted to that feeling. The abuser is the only person who can deliver moments of peace, by being his better self for a while. The abuser holds the key to the abused person's feeling of well-being. The abuser delivers the high highs that bookend the low lows, and the worse the bad times get, the better the good times are in contrast. All of this is in addition to the fact that a battered woman is shell-shocked enough to believe that each horrible incident may be the last."

Another factor is not having a "self-protective part". Personally I wasn't allowed to develop that in my family and had to learn to live without it.

Now I live with a passive aggressive spouse and I denied any clues that would have told me to stay out of a relationship with him. I was used to it as being normal, plus I had no confidence to remain alone.

He was thought highly of by his friends who knew him over twenty years. He always found a victim to manipulate so he has no reason to change, but I am stuck until I get whatever it takes for me to leave the addictive relationship.

I don't know if I could recognize a healthy person since I never experienced it before.
 
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That I can relate to.

Gavin de Becker who wrote "The Gift of Fear" says "the battered woman gets a powerful...
It's like he doesn't want to let me go, but can't give me what I need. All we do is push and pull and fight. But neither will walk away.
I mean he's completely shut me out. We don't talk at all. But when I sent the I'm done message last week my phone started ringing.
I don't get it
 
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