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Relationship Is It Ptsd Or Does He Really Not See A Future?

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"I'm trying Joanna, that's all I can do is try"
I think he means what he says and he really is afraid of losing you. That's my gut talking.

My vet used to talk about going camping with me. He said we HAD to go to make sure I could survive. I believe that was the side of "war" that takes his mind over. We were beginning to plan that trip just before he got overwhelmed. I know for a fact that I am inclusive into his future. The PTSD demons takes a hold of his brain, and he's TOTALLY different. I know that because he is completely unable to give a coherent explanation as to "why" he's pulling away. He'll say things like "I've told you 1000 times and I can't keep explaining." When in fact he never explained anything. He'll say "It's just how I feel" and "I have to be happy" ... so when I scanned through all of my texts from the other periods where he's pulled away, they are nearly IDENTICAL. Sorry, but to me, that's PTSD... if it wasn't, he would've never come back.

Except this time, I pushed way too hard. Hating my recent behavior so much. It's unbearable.
 
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I think people say a lot of things when they are depressed, and half the time they don't mean what they...

It does, and I have thought about those things. So I texted him saying pretty much what you said... "It's been about a month. We agree to stay together and that I would give you the support and space you need to start therapy. Cutting me off completely wasn't what I intended and its hurtful but I will continue to give you the space you need. It would be nice if you can reach out once in a while to let me know your heart is still with me, even if you are still needing more time and space." So I guess I'll let you know how it goes. I know he saw the text but he hasn't responded.
 
I think he means what he says and he really is afraid of losing you. That's my gut talking.

My vet used t...

I have to agree with you 100%, in my mind it is PTSD and "if it wasnt he wouldnt never come back". Exactly how I feel too. Our stories are so similar its scary. He always teaches me survival techniques and we like to go hiking. He bought me a hiking bag with a camel back and ammo for my birthday. I hope you guys get to go on your camping trip one day.

I also believe he means what he says and is afraid of losing me. Whether he is isolating or doing well he always tells me he loves me and that's hes lucky to have me. It's when hes isolating all the fears and anxieties come through and he says things he doesn't mean.
 
I have to agree with you 100%, in my mind it is PTSD and "if it wasnt he wouldnt never come back". Exactl...
Something I hate that my vet says to me when pulling away (because to me it seems so impersonal) ..."I've thanked you a million times for always being there for me" ...and sometimes with the followup statement "but I can't be in a relationship right now." He said something along those lines this time and it absolutely infuriated me, without mentioning not wanting to be in a relationship, but I knew what he meant. I feel he's saying "Thanks for the good deed" GOD!!!!!! That pisses me off to no end. I'm just exhausted. I don't know if it's my rational brain or irrational brain, but I just have this awful feeling we're done. I went back and read some of our old texts over the last year, and there is NO F*CKING WAY that he does not care about me. Will he stay? I don't know, but I'm not feeling very confident AT ALL! He has not replied to my apology texts that I left yesterday. I don't think he's mad per se, but I think he's fearful of being overwhelmed with me again. I have a bunch of stuff at his house, my amusement park pass in his wallet, and I think he doesn't wanna face me at all. He's afraid it'll be drama, i.e., me crying, etc. I still have his house key and some of his stuff in my car. So stupid of me to fight with him! I wish I could just make myself believe that it's ok to move on, but I feel I'm so far from that. :( Please I don't need to hear negative comments about this from anyone right now because this is the only place I feel somewhat safe to talk. I have ZERO support outside of this forum.

Therapy was sh*t by the way, and that's all I have to say about THAT!!
 
Does your therapist specialize in PTSD?
I'm pretty sure she doesn't, but I just didn't like her anyways. I can't even deal with that right now. I'm not in a good state of mind, and having some anxiety/crying. Just beating myself up for my messed up behavior.
 
I'm pretty sure she doesn't, but I just didn't like her anyways. I can't even deal with that right now. I'...

My doctor referred me to mine, and she specializes in PTSD. I would consider looking for another therapist. Not sure what made the session so awful, but like I've said you can't beat yourself up. What's done is done. I'm not sure what helps you to calm down your anxiety, but if you do take a mental health day and try to relax. There is nothing you can do to make anything better at this moment, except to take care of yourself. I know what it feels like, I have those days too. Hang in there.
 
@jems I know nothing I can say will help right now. But Joanna makes a point and has helped me so much. Try (and I know this is way harder said than done) not to beat yourself up. You can't go back and change your past actions. I regret almost the entire first week my vet asked for a break. But I can't take that back. All we can do is change how we go forward. I've been working to learn all I can how to cope with PTSD and it's all so overwhelming. But we are here for you. I don't know why people feel the need to be so judgmental when all you are asking for is support and a non-threatening place to express yourself. If there's anything I can do, let me know. Lots of love your way.

Terri
Xoxo
 
Sorry this is so long, but I think the fact that both of you two couples are still in contact is a good sign. There is always hope of getting back together when you are in communication. Unfortunately I have never gotten that. My situation is somewhat different than yours. He never once said he didn't love me or didn't want me or that we were over. We had long term plans and had just spent a 3 day weekend together which included his 3 young kids and we all bonded really well. The last night together he said his love for me had grown over the weekend. The next morning he kissed me goodbye and said "I love you and will call you later". Apparently the shit hit the fan the next day but he didn't communicate it with me! All I knew was he was suppose to bring his kids to my town for us to go to an amusement park and I hadn't heard from him in two days and he was suppose to be here! So I crossed his boundary by contacting one of his FB "friends" and he blew up. We argued and he tried to be understanding but couldn't deal with what I had done. When I needed to get off the phone I asked if we could talk later and he said, "I don't know at this point. I'm worried about how you overreacted and invaded my space". When I contacted him later he didn't respond. He wouldn't respond to any of my apologies. After a week of him ignoring me I got mad and blocked him on messenger. The next day he completely blocked me on FB. I live with the regret of that decision daily! Now he is back in Afghanistan for 6 more months and I have nothing to do but sit in my guilt with a pit in my stomach that has lasted 5 weeks. All I can assume is I triggered him so bad and since he was already under stress and he couldn't deal with it. He was home for his 3 week break and had so much on his plate to deal with. He never had time to decompress and our argument created one more stress.This is where I believe the PTSD played a role. I don't believe the average man would have walked away from our relationship over this. There was just so much working against us.

I know what you mean about them feeling like they can't make us happy. My vet was always worried he would not be able to give me the attention I needed to keep me happy so I would be faithful for the 6 months he was gone. He's also very hard on himself when he screws up. Military men can't make mistakes, and that's still how he thinks. Yes I overreacted, but it was a reaction to his failure to communicate with me. He should have accepted his role in this and not just let me take the fall. I guess since he had an anxiety attack a few days before I should have still been in "space" mode, but WE HAD PLANS! This is what's so frustrating for me. I blame myself for losing him, but it's not like I cheated on him! He gave up on me too easily. Yet he was the one who was always said he was worried I would give up on him! So that is why I kept reaching out. I wanted him to know I was going to fight for us and for him.That's what you do when you love someone unconditionally.

Sorry for hijacking your thread. I've just been struggling today myself. I don't know what to do anymore and my situations is so different from any advise you read. My vet was 21 years in the military and special ops. He can shut off emotion. Talk about testosterone to the max! He's an adrenaline junkie so when the "Men are from Mars" book talks about the cave, he needs to go to the extreme! Then add PTSD on top of that and it's like walking on eggshells with him! No wonder he has been married 3 times! I'm not sure there is a woman out there who could have succeeded. I have tried every advise out there. All that's left is no contact and to move on. Yes we love these men more than anyone in the world and would give anything to have a normal relationship with them, but is it possible? My counselor warned me he may never be able to have a relationship. That makes me so sad because I want that with him, but he also has to be willing to do the work. I think that's what Silver and others have been trying to say. We can't use the PTSD as an excuse for them. We can support them and love them, but at what cost to ourselves?
 
@Endure That is why, even as much as it is paining me, I will not contact my BF. He said he needed space and I agreed so I have to move on for myself. I am not closing the door yet, but I can't push at him. Ours was very much the same...FaceTime and love/hugs/kisses on a Thursday night to being shut out on Friday. (3 weeks ago). I am trying to learn from others and respect his space so that if there is any potential, I won't regret pushing him away. But I also question. He's been married twice as well and is he capable? Sad that they just may not be. Heartbreaking for me. But I have to protect myself as well. Lots of love to you.
 
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