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I know this is very hard and I’m not judging you, but I cannot stress enough how he is beyond the point of being able to handle this with outpatient treatment. He cannot keep himself safe so it’s imperative that he be in a place that can keep him safe.

Remember that keeping him alive IS doing what’s best for your family.

He may hate you today, tomorrow, next week, and next month, but when he heals and gets to a better place, I think he will thank you for helping him.
 
Oh hun --- there is no judgement! I (and I'm guessing everyone else) can see how scared you are and how out of your experience this situation is. It is downright scary to face someone who is suicidal and making these kinds of threats. Feeling lost is normal.

But

@EveHarrington and @Zoogal are right.....he may be mad and have a big ole temper tantrum and that's OK as long as he is doing it in the confines of the hospital. Will he forgive you for sending him there? Will it matter as long as he is alive?

You are doing the best you can -- but it's time to take a step back...take a deep breath....re-read the responses you've been offered here and make a decision first for the safety of you and the kids and then for him.

You CANNOT do this alone and you don't have to. There are resources out there .....just waiting to help.
 
Please don't judge me.

There isn't absolutely no judgement. There's no manual for how to deal with this. You're doing your best, and it really does show. We're just trying to show you that another type of your best -- your instincts -- are correct.

I'm so glad you reached out for help. It's the best thing you could have done.

He's clearly in a distorted state. Especially with the kinds of questions he's asking you. It makes sense that you raised your voice -- this is incredibly important, and he's misinterpreting even your ability to love and help him and care for him. Push past that -- he needs help, as soon a second possible.
 
he is beyond the point of being able to handle this with outpatient treatment. He cannot keep himself safe so it’s imperative that he be in a place that can keep him safe.
This right here. If someone's making attempts they need inpatient care for their own safety, at least IMO.
Kind of feels weird giving advice on this all, considering my own suicidal thoughts, but I have a lot of experience dealing with someone who was very suicidal. I guess thinking about all this stuff, and talking about it, kind of helps give me reasons to stay safe. I wouldn't want to burden people in my life with my death, or the thought of it, so I don't think I'm in danger of doing anything stupid, I just have to suffer with the thoughts from time to time.

Something I regret about dealing with my ex, my abuser: I should have gotten other people involved sooner. I should have called 911 or a suicide line the very first time he was making serious threats of suicide. (means on his person, making threats of imminent suicide)

I would have saved myself from a lot of trauma. It was probably a year after that that I actually started getting the professionals involved. He made an attempt - even if it seems like a "half assed attempt" or something like that (maybe he's trying to make it sound like that?), that's something very serious. You shouldn't have to deal with this - not only that, you aren't trained to deal with this. Other people are trained to deal with this. You can feel safe trusting him with them, even if it pisses him off.

My abuser really didn't like being put in the psych ward. His words here "that place is like my own personal hell!!! i would rather die than go there!!!"

Yet the world still existed afterwards, he played the game and found his way out eventually, without actually having been treated (because he just did what he had to to get out as fast as possible), and he was so overjoyed at getting out of there, that he didn't care that I was the one who got him put in there in the first place.

It's not like I view it like that of course - he got himself put in there with his own actions - I'm just saying that to him, that blame would fall on me, even though I only did the right thing.

So whether he's going to be okay with you when he gets out, or whether he's not, it doesn't matter - you're not equipped to handle a suicidal person, and it isn't right to subject yourself to having to do that, you shouldn't have to handle this stuff. Let the pros handle it.

While he's in there, you likely will be able to communicate with him over the phone or maybe even visit him. You can do that if you want but, trust me here, DON'T feel like you have to, if it's causing you distress to do so. Like seriously. Maybe you need space, maybe you don't. If you communicate with him, feel free to contact the people who work there and tell them about things your husband said on the phone - like if he's saying he's just lying to try to get his way out, then tell them that, or if he says he's gonna get out and kill himself - tell them that. They won't rat you out at all, because they want to keep you as a source of information on him. That will help make it so that he actually gets treated in there, instead of just getting out and repeating the vicious cycle, which IMO is a cycle that's just going to intensify if it isn't stopped.

It is downright scary to face someone who is suicidal and making these kinds of threats.

This is so true, people shouldn't have to deal with these things, but sadly it happens. It can be traumatic to have to deal with that sort of stuff. That's another reason why it's always a good reason to get help as soon as possible, and call 911/suicide line if someone's acting like this.
 
You shouldn't have to deal with this - not only that, you aren't trained to deal with this. Other people are trained to deal with this. You can feel safe trusting him with them, even if it pisses him off.

So whether he's going to be okay with you when he gets out, or whether he's not, it doesn't matter - you're not equipped to handle a suicidal person, and it isn't right to subject yourself to having to do that, you shouldn't have to handle this stuff. Let the pros handle it.

yes! What @Sweetleaf said!
 
I attempted once, years ago. Told my partner (at the time) what I did. He thought I was joking. By the time someone got to me, I was hallucinating, vomiting horrendously, and was in the ICU for days, the majority of which I don't remember. My poor mom, my poor brother. I *obviously* wasn't thinking straight when I made the decision, but I was in a bad place with no good coping skills. Turns out, I didn't want to die, I just needed help and had no idea how to ask for it. Seems like your guy is asking for help, too. He's not thinking straight, so seems like the next step is completely up to you. I agree with other poster's suggestions regarding in-patient. I was admitted "voluntarily" to in-patient after I was released from the hospital. I did not like it, and I thought it was a waste of time, BUT, it kept me safe long enough for me to level out, and it made my family hyper-aware of the support I needed at the time. And that was worth all the time in the world.
 
Just a note: his anger and accusations against you is simply a way to deflect responsibility to face his own pain. I hope you have intervened on his behalf or have been able to tell his Therapist what has taken place with him. I hurt for you and your children. I hope you are able to be active in getting him care. Love is hard sometimes. This is one of those times.
 
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