Eleanor
Diamond Member
Nope, the last experience sounds like kind of a waste of time for counselling - you need some actual guidance and help dealing with stress and how to support your husband.
I'm glad you guys got away. Any chance you could do it again soon? Your son needs the time away - and even if it is just you and him, it would be good to give him the opportunity to be in a different context without electronic activities to help him branch out a bit. Maybe he could even bring a friend? I think you really need to start giving YOURSELF the life you'd like to have. (oops, note to self: give me life I want to have. :D) Vacationing is a skill - you have to practice to get good at it. It sounds like you guys are a little rusty.
Could you go out hiking? Or ride bikes? Is there a beach nearby? Clearly, your son needs to get out more, but YOU do too - and frankly the best treatment for depression is good diet and EXERCISE. Seriously, outperforms meds every time. By a long shot.
It sounds to me like your son is doing what his dad models? Is HE (son) in counseling? It has helped my L so much to have her t too - who is super and helps her work through her own anger and fears, and helps me understand too.
I'm worried you guys are in a "holding pattern" and can't shake the sense (sorry, cuz I may be totally wrong about this) that your husband hasn't really taken the bull by the horns and decided to get better despite going to therapy etc. (lots of sufferers on the forum point out that they really have to see it as just their problem, about THEM and decide to handle it before they get better...) It may take an ultimatum from you to really light a fire under him..
Here is the thing - I was the master of the relationship bail out for many years - I always had someone new lined up before ending the old one. And *I* didn't get any better - or find a better quality of partner until I did the work on me. When I ended my first marriage I spent about a year doing intense therapy and workshops (and a lot of yoga and meditation) to get in a better/different place to start a new relationship. Ok, I ended up with someone with PTSD - BUT he was 'in remission" when we met, and is a really really good man - when he's not in an episode and his hemoglobin is above 10.:meh:. And we are working on those things. And, finally, making some progress. But my point is this: If you are ready to give up on your husband, Give Up. Do it clean with no one in the wings. Don't muddy up the situation. You will have enough to handle taking care of your son, and helping him deal with you and his dad breaking up. If there is another guy - it will make it orders of magnitude more difficult. Really. Really.
I know you are lonely. I know this is a super bright spot. I KNOW how nice it is to feel alive after years of being dead. AND I know how the thing ends. And it never ends well. Better to take the bitter pill up front. If the new fellow is a good guy - as soon as he found out you were married - he'd have (gently, politely) told you to call him when the divorce is final. That is what good guys do. Good guys don't poach on other men's turf, and they don't take advantage of women in emotional turmoil and they respect women's abilities to manage their lives. Only the bad ones would pursue you now. You are a wonderful woman, and you are not yet available. The guy you deserve would respect you enough to let you work out your current life before asking you to start a new one.
I'm glad you guys got away. Any chance you could do it again soon? Your son needs the time away - and even if it is just you and him, it would be good to give him the opportunity to be in a different context without electronic activities to help him branch out a bit. Maybe he could even bring a friend? I think you really need to start giving YOURSELF the life you'd like to have. (oops, note to self: give me life I want to have. :D) Vacationing is a skill - you have to practice to get good at it. It sounds like you guys are a little rusty.
Could you go out hiking? Or ride bikes? Is there a beach nearby? Clearly, your son needs to get out more, but YOU do too - and frankly the best treatment for depression is good diet and EXERCISE. Seriously, outperforms meds every time. By a long shot.
It sounds to me like your son is doing what his dad models? Is HE (son) in counseling? It has helped my L so much to have her t too - who is super and helps her work through her own anger and fears, and helps me understand too.
I'm worried you guys are in a "holding pattern" and can't shake the sense (sorry, cuz I may be totally wrong about this) that your husband hasn't really taken the bull by the horns and decided to get better despite going to therapy etc. (lots of sufferers on the forum point out that they really have to see it as just their problem, about THEM and decide to handle it before they get better...) It may take an ultimatum from you to really light a fire under him..
Here is the thing - I was the master of the relationship bail out for many years - I always had someone new lined up before ending the old one. And *I* didn't get any better - or find a better quality of partner until I did the work on me. When I ended my first marriage I spent about a year doing intense therapy and workshops (and a lot of yoga and meditation) to get in a better/different place to start a new relationship. Ok, I ended up with someone with PTSD - BUT he was 'in remission" when we met, and is a really really good man - when he's not in an episode and his hemoglobin is above 10.:meh:. And we are working on those things. And, finally, making some progress. But my point is this: If you are ready to give up on your husband, Give Up. Do it clean with no one in the wings. Don't muddy up the situation. You will have enough to handle taking care of your son, and helping him deal with you and his dad breaking up. If there is another guy - it will make it orders of magnitude more difficult. Really. Really.
I know you are lonely. I know this is a super bright spot. I KNOW how nice it is to feel alive after years of being dead. AND I know how the thing ends. And it never ends well. Better to take the bitter pill up front. If the new fellow is a good guy - as soon as he found out you were married - he'd have (gently, politely) told you to call him when the divorce is final. That is what good guys do. Good guys don't poach on other men's turf, and they don't take advantage of women in emotional turmoil and they respect women's abilities to manage their lives. Only the bad ones would pursue you now. You are a wonderful woman, and you are not yet available. The guy you deserve would respect you enough to let you work out your current life before asking you to start a new one.