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Hyper vigilance for life ??

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stu_the_blue

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So my cptsd comes from 20 years working as a cop and 15 of them years working surveillance. What has come out of therapy is that being hyper vigilant was what I did everytime I went to work and now I know no other way. As soon as I leave the house I am scanning . Some days I can convince myself I’m being followed. This can become so tiring and overwhelming that I now don’t want to go out . Even with the family to McDonald’s I’m constantly watching everything and never in the moment.
Any ex cops or military on here that suffers the same ? Many thanks
 
Prior service military, & a few other things, here.

Short answer… Nope! Not for life.

Long answer….

What I do is start by drawing a HARD line between vigilance (useful) & hypervigilance (not useful).

What that looks like? Is 3 different ways


- Effortless vigilance. I am ALWAYS away of where I am, what’s going on, projected pathways, etc. Anything that actually needs my attention? POPS. Like it’s lit up in neon. Anything I’m directing my attention at? In no way obscures everything else I am also paying attention to. Very much like the very normal experience of driving. Emergencies pop, but the rest of the time I’m still aware of the road and other drivers and weather and and and. All of which allows me to adapt easily and fluidly to changing circumstance, whilst taking almost not energy on my part, whatsoever.

- Having to “manually” assess & dismiss every damn thing. Grrrr. It drives me crazy, and is exhausting, and I can only do it for very limited periods of time (think in terms of minutes). BUT? It’s what allows me to retrain my hypervig back to vigilance. Mostly? I do it by playing games, because I can play a game longer & more effectively than I can kick my own ass. Other times I sandwich it in between bouts of physical exercise, so I can blow off the stress & exhaustion. (Including if that’s on “accident” : like suddenly finding myself in a bout of hypervig, and having to assess & dismiss to get from a to b? Nothing works better to clear my head.

- Hypervig. For lack of anything “real” for my brain to be tracking? Man oh man does it start trying to FIND anything/everything. But by throwing giant neon signs around everything, the world becomes an electric kaleidoscope hangover from hell. Everything is too loud, too bright, too demanding of immediate action. Most of the time? I’d rather be being shot at, than attempting to buy cereal. Whether it’s the whole able to hear a mosquito fart 2 blocks away, a empty chip bag blowing under a car screaming as loud as car crashing into it, and don’t even get me started on the faceless blur of people.


1. So. First? I draw the hard line between what’s useful & necessary …and not… in order to not get jacked into the idea that it’s hypervig -or- being deaf/dumb/blind, completely unaware of my surroundings, the way most people are. I WANT my instincts and judgment to be fine tuned and reliable.

2. I start retraining my instincts and judgement by manually assessing and dismissing components in my environment.

3. STRESS CUP <<< Read this. Use it.

4. Trauma Processing. <<< That’s the long term solution, of going after root problems, but it ain’t no reason have to be eyeballs deep hypervig & other symptoms until then. Walking and talking? Is a thing.
 
hello stu. welcome to the forum. sorry for what brings you here, but glad you are here.

i carried my own ptsd into the army with me, but military training treated my hyper-vigilance like a very good thing and trained it as far as they could. i have never given it much thought, but now that i'm thinking on it, i thank them for their service. a frequent saying on my own recovery road is, "don't cure it. train it." now i am wondering if that very training is the foundation of that approach to my psychotherapy. an awful lot of the psycho ticks i acquired in surviving child sex trafficking were strengths before the psychotic aspects of child sex trafficking over-developed them to problematic levels. i try not to throw proverbial babies out with the bathwater.

if more acute observation was the only symptom of my hyper-vigilance, i would have considered myself blessed and called my psychotherapy finished after AIT (advanced individual training). alas, the collateral toll of my own hyper-vigilance is heavily laced with paranoia. random targeting. self-abuse/sabotage, panic attacks and the like.

dunno if that fits your case, or not. just sharing. . .
i mostly wanted you to welcome you aboard.
 
So my cptsd comes from 20 years working as a cop and 15 of them years working surveillance. What has come out of therapy is that being hyper vigilant was what I did everytime I went to work and now I know no other way. As soon as I leave the house I am scanning . Some days I can convince myself I’m being followed. This can become so tiring and overwhelming that I now don’t want to go out . Even with the family to McDonald’s I’m constantly watching everything and never in the moment.
Any ex cops or military on here that suffers the same ? Many thanks
I was a cop for 13 years and have recently been diagnosed with ptsd. I can’t even walk my dogs without scanning and being so anxious. I struggle with isolation, slamming noises, nightmares and cant seem to trust anyone. I also can’t talk about it because I feel no one will understand. I can’t talk about what I have seen and done with regular people because I feel I might traumatize them and they won’t come close to understanding. I also can’t find I therapist who gets it. They always want me to do all this stupid stuff that makes no sense to me. I totally get what you are going through. My hyper vigilance has left me isolated and so lonely.
 
I was a cop for 13 years and have recently been diagnosed with ptsd.
Welcome!
Getting a handle on stress a la the Stress Cup article is a huge help. I wish I had found it before I started therapy but even finding it after, I found it a massive help. Whatever that looks like for you when you learn how to start managing that one thing - all the other symptoms are reduced somewhat as well.

Learning to manage stress is an invaluable tool in the toolbox for living with PTSD for sure.
 
Not a cop, not military. But hypervigilant ALL the time. Have been for 58 yrs.
It’s so exhausting. But, I have to say being hypervigilant has saved my rear end a few times. I just can’t seem to stop even when I should be relaxing. I struggle with getting anxiety attacks through the night when I sleep and wake up several times a night. The last counselor I talked to said it’s because my brain is so used to functioning at a high level it can’t relax and when I start to relax I get a cortisol dump causing the anxiety.
 
Welcome!
Getting a handle on stress a la the Stress Cup article is a huge help. I wish I had found it before I started therapy but even finding it after, I found it a massive help. Whatever that looks like for you when you learn how to start managing that one thing - all the other symptoms are reduced somewhat as well.

Learning to manage stress is an invaluable tool in the toolbox for living with PTSD for sure.
Thank you. I read the article. It’s really good and was helpful.
 
I’d rather be being shot at, than attempting to buy cereal. Whether it’s the whole able to hear a mosquito fart 2 blocks away, a empty chip bag blowing under a car screaming as loud as car crashing into it, and don’t even get me started on the faceless blur of people.
Omg. I love this. I can barely tolerate the groceries store. I have abandoned my full cart in the isle before because I got too over stimulated. I would rather get shot at then go buy groceries.
 
It’s so exhausting. But, I have to say being hypervigilant has saved my rear end a few times. I just can’t seem to stop even when I should be relaxing. I struggle with getting anxiety attacks through the night when I sleep and wake up several times a night. The last counselor I talked to said it’s because my brain is so used to functioning at a high level it can’t relax and when I start to relax I get a cortisol dump causing the anxiety.
I wish I knew what it was like to totally relax. I've never been able to. I wake often in the night. I sleep light as hell. I have 3 fans on high in the bedroom for white noise. Unless I'm completely exhausted...I will hear a noise and think I need to go see if someone is trying to break into the house. It's frickin miserable always being on alert and looking around to survey the situation.
 
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