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Don't apologize if you didn't do anything wrong. Just disengage. "I love you, but I'm not going to c...
thank you sweetpea. i dont feel like like i did anything wrong as i am not the one who caused the situation.yes my reaction was pretty bad, especially since I couldn't respond with a clear mind.the word apologize isn't even on my radar because of me, its there because of other people. If i were to apologize it would only be me saying ok im ready to be the bigger person so we can move on.will i have to do that Everytime? this is starting to be ridiculous I'm tired of apologizing for everything Everytime we fight im always first to apologise now
 
this is not why we fought ..but he also said something that kind of got to me but confused me at the same time. in this case an argument did not start because i just accepted what he said and moved on . in april he seemed very symptomatic. not sleeping well, panic attacks, reoccurring nightmares. He even zoned out and went there right in front of me.i tried my best to get him to come back, guy was gone for a long time. I finally got him to come back but it was very difficult .as this was my first time ever experiencing something like this. once he was settled i asked him if he was ok and if he has been doing ok in general he said no and that he needs someone to talk to . i figured he wanted to vent about military things and I knew damn well it wasn't to me. So i asked is this something you need professional help with or can you just talk to one of your buddies about it? He said professional help. he said professional help and yet he blames me for him going to the va!! he said "i was fine, i only went to the va because of you " the first thing that came to my mind was are you shitting me ?!! you said you needed help. all I did was ask what kind of help you needed and suggest you get professional help after you chose that option. how am i to blame for this ? i really dont understand
 
@Veevivianvee , I can totally relate to all of your emotions and panic. My sweetie has horrible PTSD from childhood abuse and periodically shuts down for up to two weeks. This last time, she sent me a heart emoji every couple days, which eased my panic a bit.

What has really eased my panic, however, are the following:
(1) Reading these boards and as many books I can get my hands on about PTSD, CPTSD, and trauma. I've learned to understand the disorder as a chronic illness and sort of imagine my sweetie has Cystic Fibrosis and has to carry around an oxygen tank all the time and periodically her lungs fill up with fluid and she needs to tend to her own survival. I had to stop thinking her behavior was related to me or our relationship.

(2) Address my own issues: When she isolates, that's when I read the the trauma/ptsd books and look deeply into my own reactions. From this introspection, I have learned that my panic is from my own life, my own CPTSD, my own childhood. I have attachment trauma which manifests as an anxious attachment style. My sweetie is more avoidant (for good reason!). Two people with PTSD, however, doesn't have to be the kiss of relationship death. With self-awareness and patience, you can being a loving, forgiving presence to each other, and help each other heal. But you really do have to throw expectations about how relationships are supposed to be out the window. Don't compare to anyone else.

Hang in there.
 
"i was fine, i only went to the va because of you " t
uhmmmmm.....would you believe I said the same thing to hubby?? why? well i had to blame someone and he was the one who talked me into calling when I was suicidal. So in my feeble little brain it became his fault. Because doing that whole va therapy thing? It's the hardest thing I've ever done. There are no words to explain how awful it is. I can either blame myself for starting it or I can blame him. Sometimes it's easier to blame him
 
what is or was hubbies reaction when you blamed him?
well bout that. I'm very lucky in one way because I landed a very low key hubby and we've been together a long time so he reads me pretty--which means he can divert the conversations if I'm going down a bad road. I think the key to that is he learned my tells. Like when I start getting fidgety or snappish something is going to be coming up.

But - I do irritate the crap out of him when I'm all moody and blamey. Usually he just walks off. - which pisses me off - so half the time I follow him and the other half I stomp into another room.
Either way he just wont engage with me - at all. It's like I'm a lump of furniture. Is that hard for him? Honestly now that I think about it I've never asked him. But it makes me nuts! And eventually I calm down because I have no one to fight with.

Do I still blame him for making me call? Yep. There are days when I forget how bad things used to be and my day to day "trying to get over this crap" overwhelms me. Then I blame both him and my bestie. If they had just left me alone I would have been fine - but instead they pushed me into this never ending nightmare. Do I know that's not true? Sometimes. But sometimes I feel like the only reason I'm doing all this is for the people around me. I understand that's not a true statement since this is about making ME better...but when I'm in a mood I know I wouldn't be digging all this crap up if I wasn't trying to please them. If you are going to stick with your vet you have to understand how horrible horrible awful demeaning insert word here therapy is. It affects every aspect of my life. Go ahead--try to reason with me when I'm in a mood..see where that gets you. :) My rational brain goes right out the window. So if hubby has something he wants to say or argue about he's going to wait till I'm back in my head -- even if that takes a couple days. And he's pretty much going to ignore anything I say until then too. Because if he gives me the slightest reason to run I'm gone. So he just doesn't engage with my nuttiness

That might have been a bit longer answer than you wanted, but hope it helps a little.
 
I've learned to understand the disorder as a chronic illness and sort of imagine my sweetie has Cystic Fibrosis and has to carry around an oxygen tank all the time and periodically her lungs fill up with fluid and she needs to tend to her own survival.
yes!!! This!!!!!!
 
the first thing that came to my mind was are you shitting me ?!! you said you needed help. all I did was ask what kind of help you needed and suggest you get professional help after you chose that option. how am i to blame for this ? i really dont understand

You're not going to understand. It's not logical. He is lashing out as a reaction to his broken stress response.

Don't engage.
 
@Veevivianvee , I can totally relate to all of your emotions and panic. My sweetie has...
thank you for your reply litha!
i wonder if your username is pronounced the way my sisters first name is. haha
omg! i find this relationship is pushing me to my limit and then it goes beyond my limit.i guess we call it growth and it's painful, it's really painful . i am not sure if im even allowed to be in a relationship while i process all the issues i still have. i know that doesn't make sense because everyone has issues, but I just cant stand the fact that my past is haunting me.i know it doesn't have to and i thought i had healed, but i guess i didn't realize just how much that situation affected me. it makes me so angry that what someone else did to me makes me extremely insecure with the person im with now .
 
well bout that. I'm very lucky in one way because I landed a very low key hubby and we've been together...
first i want to say i love you! and always look forward to reading your posts and i thank you tons and do not care about the length of the post !
lol i have to laugh because all i keep hearing is exactly why i feel like this relationship isn't working and it's because im not learning everything yes im learning all i can about ptsd and triggers and everything i can ...but what I know about myself i have to change. i just dont know how, idk how not to engage..idk how to just let go .. walk away! ugh i desperately want to work on these things just not sure what steps to take and how to make sure those steps are effective.

that makes sense !!!! i had no real idea on how to feel about it and i knew i didnt push the issue. so i think that kind of how i was able to ignore him on that part .but in my mind i just kept thinking how is it my fault i just want you to get better . i was Doing so well to be positive and uplifting for not only him but myself. i was sooo happy to be around him and then in an instant it seemed like it was all over .
I guess I should just say what happened .
after our date that went really well amazingly well a tinder notification popped up on his phone
i immediately zoned out i left i was gone full on panic attack and by the time i came to have a thought process i snapped and told him not to touch me. all i could remember was all the horrible things my ex did to me all the cheating all the lies . I've never even told anyone in detail what that no good shit did but it goes beyond the normal i was a cheater for me. i asked my guy why he was on tinder he said he wasnt . idk what he was thinking because the freaking notification was right there!!! i asked him to open his phone he did and I clicked on the message it said you have swiped in a while log in to start swiping now. great so you weren't on recently . i clicked on the most recent of messages and they were from may 31st to june 2nd that's not a long time and he thought we were broken up during this time. there was no exchanging of numbers or anything he asked if she wanted to see a movie i guess things fell through . it didnt bother me that he was on tinder once I saw the dates and conversations. what bothered me is that i could see the messages the app everything everything was right there and he still lied to me . this made me so angry because all i could remember was a piece of shit telling me i was crazy and making shit up when i saw the makeup on the pillow the random freaking items that didnt belong to me in the bathroom!! but i was the crazy one!! and here my guy was lying and telling me i didnt see what i saw he wasn't on tinder , he doesn't know anything about anything . so i snapped . and that's why i couldn't walk away because I was too busy snapping .
 
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